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    • Ninmi
      10·
      3 years ago

      Even with things they promise to open source, there’s always too much waiting involved when it should all be open from the start.

    • k_o_t@lemmy.mlM
      3·
      3 years ago

      iirc they still haven’t undergone a security audit on that, and they’re obviously focused on security, given their target audience…

    • soronixa@lemmy.ml
      3·
      3 years ago

      wikipedia says it’s under MIT licence which is compatible with GPL, so it must be FLOSS.

        • soronixa@lemmy.ml
          4·
          3 years ago

          wow, I didn’t know. searched a bit and yeah, you’re right. their excuse is “it doesn’t add trust, because users have no way of verifying what code runs on our servers”. bullshit.

          but does it matter for email services backed to be foss in practice? the main downside I can see is it makes self hosting impossible, but other than that does it matter?

            • soronixa@lemmy.ml
              1·
              3 years ago

              ok, so my technical knowledge is limited, so correct if I’m wrong. I know that the content of emails is end to end encrypted (regardless of what runs on their backends), but emails have a header that can not be encrypted. so from what I understand, in practice it doesn’t matter that their backend is proprietary? because the header is exposed anyway and they can’t do anything about it? basically it’s the same problem with matrix, metadata can’t stay private, right?

              still sucks that they’re not FOSS.

              For example, one can be a Libre software advocate and wanting to use Tox and Jami and Briar only but if your colleagues, other parties/partners (you work with), family, friends etc. are not able or not willing to use that software then it is not going to work out.

              I know, I still have to keep using whatsapp because of my college T_T

          • freely@lemmy.ml
            3·
            3 years ago

            I’ve never seen great recommendations on this after looking around. Personally I plan on self-hosting, even if it’s not recommended…

              • freely@lemmy.ml
                3·
                3 years ago

                Never heard of Disroot. My Tutanota got deleted because I didn’t use it (previously went protonmail)

                • dandelion@lemmy.ml
                  3·
                  3 years ago

                  Disroot is nice. https://disroot.org/en You will get an email alias @getgoogleoff.me for free :-)

                  (I think for Tutanota and Protonmail for their free tier they both have deletion policy if you don’t use it for six months ?)

            • dandelion@lemmy.ml
              5·
              3 years ago

              Self-hosting email for the first time is not so easy but it depends on who you want to email with and what your emailing out options are. For example some VPS providers offers limited emailing out options where they work on the outgoing email servers reputation, in that case things should be fine. But wanting to email out via a modem line with dynamic IP address could be a “mission impossible”

              • freely@lemmy.ml
                3·
                3 years ago

                The future plan is a VPS that my home server is connected to via Wireguard. Just trying to decide on a provider. Currently thinking ArticHost or BuyVM, but we’ll see…

                  • freely@lemmy.ml
                    3·
                    3 years ago

                    Hmm. It’s some sort of OS distro with a bunch of self-hoster stuff preconfigured? I’ve already been running Ubuntu server v20 LTS for a while now as my base. Mix of KVM & Docker stuff for my various needs.