Naw, it’s just both sides whatism bullshit. If anyone thinks as bad as things are in the US (and they are shitty), that workers are treated better in China, well they are higher than I am and don’t deserve a response.
Its a combination of being unaware of how bad things are in the US, and having nothing but stereotypes to inform how you think Chinese labor is. Guess who has mandated maternity leave and who doesnt. Or paid sick leave. Or laws tying minimum wage to cost of living.
Unpaid wages are a chronic problem in China. Migrant workers are rarely given formal employment contracts. China’s state-run labour unions (independent ones are banned) often side with management in disputes. So companies are under little pressure to pay workers in a timely manner. Sometimes, when business is bad, they refuse to pay them at all. Tensions typically come to a head in the period before the Spring Festival, when migrant workers scramble to get months of back pay before going home. source
Now talk about environmental issues and state market manipulation.
Jesus Christ. I feel like I’m back on reddit with a bunch of assholes. The original person was posting about tariffs being anti-free market. I made a post saying it’s not a fair comparison due to several issues. I never said the US was fantastic or some utopian paradise. Your reply is also an insincere comparison. Migrant workers in the US are often undocumented workers from a different country (Don’t try to say I’m excusing their treatment). The article I posted was about Chinese citizens being migrant workers in China. Even then, this dumb ass argument is a strawman to my original point. But for some reason, people on here have a weird hard on for China or the US. It’s fucking ridiculous.
I made a post saying it’s not a fair comparison due to several issues. I never said the US was fantastic or some utopian paradise. Your reply is also an insincere comparison.
Right, you’re arguing US and China labor protections arent comparable and Ive been making the case theyre very comparable.
Guess who also has to put suicide nets in their factories due to the working conditions of employees who are forced to live on-site and spend their earnings in company stores.
Please show me where I said US was fantastic. Please. I would never say that. I don’t know what the fuck is wrong with people, but it has something to do with basic comprehension.
You said US workers have better working protections, someone disagreed with that, which you replied with a twisted interpretation that they said China is fantastic, which was replied with “wtf” and now this. It’s like some drug invested conversation where both sides make their own interpretation of what is said and continue to escalate.
I have no arguments on the topic itself, I’m just sick of the constant confrontational discussion with little or no meaning.
My wife lives and works in China. She can afford to rent a place in a city on minimum wage with no issues, healthcare, even emergency healthcare is cheap and without lines, she has more sick time benefits than I do, workers democracy literally just got mandated for all private and public companies. Tell me how much better I have it making $60k a year and being unable to afford to rent an apartment or go to the doctor even with insurance?
Naw, it’s just both sides whatism bullshit. If anyone thinks as bad as things are in the US (and they are shitty), that workers are treated better in China, well they are higher than I am and don’t deserve a response.
Its a combination of being unaware of how bad things are in the US, and having nothing but stereotypes to inform how you think Chinese labor is. Guess who has mandated maternity leave and who doesnt. Or paid sick leave. Or laws tying minimum wage to cost of living.
Now talk about environmental issues and state market manipulation.
Shitty migrant worker treatment, which country are you talking about again?
Jesus Christ. I feel like I’m back on reddit with a bunch of assholes. The original person was posting about tariffs being anti-free market. I made a post saying it’s not a fair comparison due to several issues. I never said the US was fantastic or some utopian paradise. Your reply is also an insincere comparison. Migrant workers in the US are often undocumented workers from a different country (Don’t try to say I’m excusing their treatment). The article I posted was about Chinese citizens being migrant workers in China. Even then, this dumb ass argument is a strawman to my original point. But for some reason, people on here have a weird hard on for China or the US. It’s fucking ridiculous.
Right, you’re arguing US and China labor protections arent comparable and Ive been making the case theyre very comparable.
Guess who also has to put suicide nets in their factories due to the working conditions of employees who are forced to live on-site and spend their earnings in company stores.
Apple, an American business.
It’s Foxconn, which is a Chinese manufacturing company.
Where the fuck did anyone say workers are treated better in China? Do you enjoy making shit up?
Where the fuck did anyone say the US had fantastic worker protections? Do you enjoy making shit up?
What. Are you high. It was your comment that started the topic. Jesus Christ what is wrong with people
Please show me where I said US was fantastic. Please. I would never say that. I don’t know what the fuck is wrong with people, but it has something to do with basic comprehension.
No idea why I’m replying, maybe I’m just bored.
You said US workers have better working protections, someone disagreed with that, which you replied with a twisted interpretation that they said China is fantastic, which was replied with “wtf” and now this. It’s like some drug invested conversation where both sides make their own interpretation of what is said and continue to escalate.
I have no arguments on the topic itself, I’m just sick of the constant confrontational discussion with little or no meaning.
My wife lives and works in China. She can afford to rent a place in a city on minimum wage with no issues, healthcare, even emergency healthcare is cheap and without lines, she has more sick time benefits than I do, workers democracy literally just got mandated for all private and public companies. Tell me how much better I have it making $60k a year and being unable to afford to rent an apartment or go to the doctor even with insurance?