Paedophiles convicted of serious sexual offences could lose parental rights over their children under a new law.

The proposed law change comes after the BBC reported the case of a mother who spent £30,000 in legal fees to stop her paedophile ex-husband getting access to their daughter.

After hearing the story, Labour MP Harriet Harman tabled an amendment to upcoming legislation.

It covers the most serious sexual offence - rape of a child under 13.

Speaking to BBC News, Ms Harman said paedophiles who were guilty of that crime in the future would be “automatically deprived” of their parental rights.

  • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Even though I understand it, I find it disturbing that such a heinous crime as rape can then have additional depts of depravity.

    I don’t know if I think it’s needed to put the bar for removal of parental rights at a sublevel of rape… “just rape” (what?! See how horrible this is) should be enough to remove parental rights. But I might be missing something…

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      2 months ago

      I’d be against setting the bar at rape.

      Stripping the right at paedophilia makes because there is a legitimate risk to the parents child.

      “Simply” rape does not endanger the child, and rape claims have been weaponised before. Not to mention in the UK’s instance legally only men can be guilty of rape.

      Add to that the “slippery slope” of if we strip parental rights for a heinous crime, why stop at rape? What about murder? Drunk driving resulting a death? Etc.

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        2 months ago

        Drunk driving and murder are potentially dangerous for the child as well. I agree that it’s a very difficult topic to tie parental rights to one’s criminal records.

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        2 months ago

        I wouldn’t say the issue is the slippery slope but rather who is going to raise them instead.

        We have no solution to this problem and it often makes things worse.

        It makes far more sense for these crimes to be used as a legal avenue for a relative or close family friend to assume parental responsibility.

        Tossing children into a system that produces worse outcomes is just another of our thousands of short term solutions that ignore the long term outcome.

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      I don’t know what I personally think, but my guess about the justification is that the state intervenes when it’s in the best interests of the child. Its purpose is to protect and aid the minor when families can’t.

      It is considered a harm to deprive children permanently of access to their parents, without showing that it’s more harmful for the kid to be around them. So crime doesn’t automatically remove access. Is the theory.

      The state isn’t supposed to treat permanent removal of access to a child as another criminal punishment. One thing I do agree on, though, is that people who rape kids shouldn’t have unsupervised visits with their minor children, since they’ve proven themselves harmful specifically to children. Not even supervised, honestly.

      I guess I’d want to see studies about outcomes of kids who are allowed around convicted adult rapist parents, vs those allowed access to parents convicted of nonviolent crimes. Or a study designed by people who know how to design studies well. Instead of my rambling suggestion.

      I worry that our vibe checks get warped around kids, and we ignore what’s proven right vs what feels right. Like people who feel really strongly that kids need their parents specifically have warped the narrative on this issue, and I don’t want to warp it in a different way.