• qyron
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    Yes, lets forbid people that still strive for self sustenance, with small scale farming and animal rearing, to make an independent living.

    Get your head out of your ass for a moment and when the oxygen rushes back to your brain realize animals are much more than meat and are an integral part of well managed and sustainable systems.

    Animals make use of crops by-products otherwise wasted, manage vegetation and provide fertilizers, just off the top of my head.

    And there are regions where no suitable crops can be planted and instead animals are the only means of survival and sustenance for people.

    Back off and let people live.

    There are better hills to die on than to persecute traditional farming.

    • @library_napper@monyet.cc
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      16 months ago

      Systems are much more sustainable without animals. Its not complex science.

      If we want more people to be able to live sustainably off the land, then we should ban animal ag.

      Fertilization is easily achieved with growing green manure. Organic materials composted. All without the ecological devastation caused by animal ag

      • qyron
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        16 months ago

        You want to pay a visit to where I live?

        Animals - mostly sheep and goats - have been used for millennia to manage vegetation. The moment it was considered an outdated practice, some fifty years back, better resolved by use of machinery, we started having wild fires, due to having unmanaged highly combustible vegetation, that otherwise was consumed by the animals.

        Let’s avoid black or white purism. Animals have played a fundamental role in our civilization. Let’s eliminate the excessive practices and strive for well balanced practices.

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          Yeah and animals ag has caused many of those areas to turn into deserts. You’re right we’ve been doing it tens of thousands if years, and look at where we are now.

          I’m not aguing that we kill all wild animals. Bison and deer are fine (sheep and goats are chicken and cows are not). I’m arguing that we need to stop all human-bred animals that are unnatural species and causing immense damage to the planet.

          • qyron
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            16 months ago

            unnatural species

            What?

            • @library_napper@monyet.cc
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              Humans bred lots of species into existence. We inbred to optimize economic output, and many of them suffer greatly because of it

              • qyron
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                06 months ago

                Can you expand on that, please? Because you are making less and less sense.

    • We grow all our own meat and veg aside from what we forage, hunt and fish. On a small scale, animals are vital to a healthy and regenerative farm.