• lseif
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    11 months ago

    all money is fake tho?

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        11 months ago

        robux is also fake money, but i dont want to give you my robux.

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          11 months ago

          Let me know when your Robux can buy a gallon of milk.

          Seems like one of these things is not like the other to me…

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            11 months ago

            There are multiple official and unofficial ways to trade robux for real life currency.

            So yes, Robux can basically buy you a gallon of milk.

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            Oh boy we’ve engaged nerd mode, my favorite!

            Robux technically are just as legitimate as dollars it’s just we arbitrarily do not accept robux for milk because it’s new (aka not “legal tender”). If you want legal money, you’ll have to specify lmao

            That seems to be the original point of this chain, am I wrong?

            Edit: technically legitimate not meaning backed but as legitimate as any other made up tradable token, aka crypto. It might be more correct for me to say robux are technically as legitimate as crypto, but I’m not entirely sure right now about the exact phrasing I want to use.

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              11 months ago

              Fine, feel free to give me both your illegitimate dollars and robux.

              If they’re not legitimate, you won’t be needing them for anything… unless this is a meaning of ‘legitimate’ I was previously unaware of.

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                11 months ago

                no money has inherit value, but we give it value. just like crypto.

                really what is the actual difference? just because crypto is not backed by a corrupt government?

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                  The American corrupt government insures your money through the FDIC, so if the bank collapses, you get to keep your money. Also, corrupt credit card companies do not force you to pay for transactions from a stolen credit card and you don’t lose money because of it.

                  What guarantees like those do crypto currencies have?

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                11 months ago

                I added an edit that covers the tradable token part.

                Their point is they don’t want to give you anything because, per the nerdy ass phrasing, those fake tokens are also tradable for things of minor interest, which is more interesting to have than not have. So why give away the tokens for free?

                Their original point is just that money is made up (aka that it only has agreed upon socially determined value)

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                  It’s as made up as morals and language and all sorts of other things that we only all agree on has meaning to us as a society.

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                    Oh boy you’re not gonna like my stance on morals :)

                    And I’m not sure if I should get into my philosophy on language… But, si je parle en francais a tu, it’s as useful as if I hadn’t talked at all to you all, because (assuming you don’t already know French, if you do, replace the example with a language that you do not know and the point still stands) French is a social construct amongst the French, not amongst English speakers. So therefore, different constructs have different values in different contexts.

                    I guess my wandering point here (because I absolutely agree still with the original poster that money is a made up social construct) is that even though you value money more than robux, it doesn’t give money any more legitimacy, it’s just you’ve decided one is more useful than the other based on the necessities of society. That is not a wrong thing to do, by all means, you need money and not robux to survive in common society, but it does cover up the nature of things in that money is technically just as legitimate a token as robux.

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      11 months ago

      Yesterday I went to a shop and they let me take away some stuff after I handed over some colourful bits of paper. Seems real enough to me.

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        11 months ago

        by that logic crypto is real too. since you can buy things with it

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          All money derives its value from pople believing in it. That goes for any currency, including gold.