• @blujan
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    28 months ago

    If that stops even just 1% of murders then that’s actually great.

    • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Well it’ll stop even less than that. Mass shooters plan for months, the law isn’t intended for that. It is meant to stop “crimes of passion” (read: killing your wife), but all that would happen is they prevent this time (or he goes all Chris Benoit), then he picks up his gun 10 days later, and next time he’s in a wife killin’ mood he’s all prepared.

      In fact, statistically, according to the ATF, average “Time to crime” of a firearm (time from purchase to when it ends up involved at a crime scene) is 11 years. That’s a bit longer than 10 days.

      • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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        10 days is more than 0. Is that maths too hard for you? a 0 day waiting time would stop NOTHING. 10 days would at least stop spur of the moment killings. Is that not worth something?

        What would you prefer:

        • A higher number of killings
        • A lower number of killings

        If your standard is 0 killings, you’ll agree with nothing, because nothing will get it to 0.

        • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          18 months ago

          So you don’t care that instead of killing his wife on the first of the month, he kills her on the tenth? Sure solved a lot there. Simply killing someone 9 days later than origionally intended is somehow lowering the number of killings? And no mention of average time to crime being eleven whole years? Again I posit that 11 years is longer than 10 days, there are 410.5 “10 days” stretches in 11yrs, by the time that first gun typically shows up in crime he could have 410 guns and be 5 days from his 411th.

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                Oh, but your argument before was that 10 days isn’t long enough. Was that just a trick?

                Sounds to me like you’re one of those people that says, “I’m not against gun control in principle, it just has to be done right”, then disagrees with every gun control proposal. Because you actually are against gun control.

                • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  8 months ago

                  No, my argument was that a 10 day wait period was “pointless, because it does fuck all.”

                  Oh, and yes, I am against further gun control that has no impact. I, unlike you, don’t just want to pretend I’m helping, I actually want to address the root causes of violence (not just gun violence) themselves. It may be harder but at least it isn’t “completely useless feel good legislation that isn’t even actually designed to actually solve the issue because if they did solve it they couldn’t use it to pressure you for votes.”

                  • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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                    08 months ago

                    Wow, you seem pretty confident you know what my opinion is, even without me telling you! Try my age, next!