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  • sin_free_for_00_days
    4·
    1 year ago

    when tested, magic has consistently been shown to not exist.

    Followed by:

    There is no such evidence to suggest that there can’t be a creator deity.

    Uh, OK.

      • sin_free_for_00_days
        4·
        1 year ago

        Yes, made up. Just like deities made up in more ignorant times.

        Are you seriously arguing in good faith that “god” exists as anything more than a mass delusion? And you think not believing that is “edgy”? If so, I really think we’re done.

        • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
          171·
          1 year ago

          Are you seriously arguing in good faith that “god” exists as anything more than a mass delusion?

          No! I’m saying that making a truth claim without evidence is necessarily irrational! I literally said that I don’t believe it. There is a difference between not believing something and believing not something.

          I think that centering your online persona around your lack of belief while making comments about how delusional someone must be to be religious is what’s edgy.

          • sin_free_for_00_days
            2·
            1 year ago

            I would counter that your pedantic hair splitting is what is truly edgy. “I don’t believe in god, but I don’t believe in not god” makes no semantic difference and is rather perfect fence sitting.

            • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
              51·
              1 year ago

              Okay buddy, you’ve convinced me. Gnostic atheism is much more reasonable and true than agnostic atheism. Saying “I don’t know and don’t much care” is so much edgier than naming yourself “sin free for 0 days” and claiming to know for an absolute fact that there is no god

              • sin_free_for_00_days
                2·
                1 year ago

                claiming to know for an absolute fact that there is no god

                When it’s never been proved otherwise, it’s a weird hill to die on.

                • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
                  4·
                  1 year ago

                  That’s precisely what I’m saying. If you can’t prove that something is true, it’s weird to go to such lengths justifying an affirmative belief that it’s true, instead of taking the position that you simply don’t know and therefore don’t believe any claims made about it either way.

                  • sin_free_for_00_days
                    2·
                    1 year ago

                    If you can’t say god doesn’t exist, you are willing to say anything is possible. I believe 100% the sun will rise in the East tomorrow morning. I guess with your reasoning, I shouldn’t discount the chance that the sun will rise from the horizon in which it set. We don’t know anything!