• MentalEdge
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    1 year ago

    Why are you acting as if meaningless defeatist comebacks are somehow successful one-ups?

    I’m not pretending to believe anything, I’m fully aware of how current reality works, and has worked. You mistaking my optimism for what might be possible to mean I think that’s how the world does work, is on your antagonistic starting point.

    If you think profit is the only reason people set out to run companies, then you’re the one who is delusional.

    And any one of us might alone not amount to much, but even this discussion between you and me will sway at least two minds one way or the other. Scale that up a thousand times, and the direction we take as a species is determined by the ideas exchanged between people, exactly as we are doing now, averaged out among us all.

    If all you have to say is nihilistic bullshit about how we should just curl up and die because we can’t really ever do enough, then you can fuck off.

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      If you think profit is the only reason people set out to run companies, then you’re the one who is delusional.

      If you take VC money, you play by their rules. Its not nihilistic to be realistic about the context of things.

      And I appreciate your optimism, even if I consider it to be delusional. But to me that kind of ‘inactive hope’ is equivalent to what you accused me of doing (‘curl up and die’).

      Proceeding through this world on hopes and prayers that a system set up to do anything but exploit and destroy will do anything but that is deeply problematic and contributes significantly to the issues. Its a kind of toxic positivity that gives people the illusion that they are doing something when they aren’t. I don’t have time for that.

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        Why are you assuming my hope is “inactive”?

        We’re discussing this on a federated platform for fucks sake, which part of how I’m going about living my life that you can see, suggested to you that all I do is cross my fingers and pray that the status quo changes?

        Is commenting on these things for others to read mutually exclusive with actually doing something about them?

        If you don’t have time for changing minds, then you’re the one giving up on the most powerful way to affect change.

        Shifting popular opinion is literally prerequisite to ALL nation-scale change in modern mostly-democratic society.