• pimento64
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    1 year ago

    Still being a communist is analogous to being a tankie, because to still be a communist in 2023 demonstrates delusional belief in an obsolete political theory while choosing to accept its endless failures and its millions of victims. It’s an active choice.

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      -Are average Americans “capitalists” because they sell their labour for money in a market economy?
      -Is China a socialist nation?
      -Were the National Socialists actual socialists?

      If your answer to any of the above was “yes” you need to take a step back and ask yourself some questions, namely:

      -What is a capitalist?
      -What makes a nation socialist?
      -What is authoritarianism, and is it distinct from socialism?

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            RIDF stands for Russian Internet Defense Force: those who are paid to further the foreign policy goals of Putin by shitposting online, but also includes the pro-Russian, anti-West, or just plain easily-manipulated idiots who do it for free. Concern trolling, forum sliding, sealioning, simping for the failed states and ideologies in Russia’s sphere of friendship, these are all RIDF characteristics. See also: 50 Yuan Army.

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      I don’t really agree. There’s nothing wrong with communist theory, it’s never really been embraced somewhere it should/would actually work out well. Vietnam I guess is probably the best real world example of success.

      Marx, the original father of communism theorized it to be the next logical step in the evolution of an economic system. From his perspective only the most advanced industrialized nations would be capable of the transition. For whatever reason communism has almost exclusively been adopted by countries who were not or were currently struggling through the early stages of industrialization. Marx and his vision for a communist society was definitely not meant for a agrarian society as it was almost exclusively attempted in.

      Communist ideas could work somewhere like America or Europe possibly. Most countries already employ many of Marx’s pillars of a communist society. America and all EU countries don’t really practice a pure form of capitalism, and haven’t for a really long time. There’s socialist and communist ideas employed all over. They just don’t openly get called that. Communism doesn’t have to be a bloody revolt with a totalitarian leader installed.

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        Vietnam I guess is probably the best real world example of success.

        Yugoslavia but take away all the Yugoslavs

        For whatever reason communism has almost exclusively been adopted by countries who were not or were currently struggling through the early stages of industrialization. Marx and his vision for a communist society was definitely not meant for a agrarian society as it was almost exclusively attempted in.

        Because Marxism-Leninism proposed that if you have a small group of people who hold all the power, you can just will your way past the bourgeois democracy stage with the help of the peasantry, and the Soviet Union put a great deal of effort into supporting ML movements, and crushing non-ML leftists.