• pinkdrunkenelephantsOP
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    Focus your energy on something productive and therapeutic before you get yourself thrown in prison.

    I’m not the one who needs to be told that. Rapists are, yet here you are getting angry at me thinking you’re going to make me submit to your opinion – you’re not – instead of reserving your words exclusively for them.

    And this is because by your twisted and awful mindset, rapists are not actually a threat to the community, rape VICTIMS are, because victims are the ones who openly speak out against and challenge the basic premises of a nightmare system that subjugates them and benefits scumfucks like you at their expense.

    Miss me with that shit.

    My entire point was that outside of direct self defense, you should not track down people that wronged you to murder them.

    Here’s the only meaningful point you make before devolving into dumb revenge cliche shit, so let’s examine it:

    First of all, this is a strawman and it shows you don’t know what you’re talking about. There’s no tracking involved. Most rapes are committed by people you know, so you know where they are. Even strangers are people who live in the same city or close to the area of the victim, so the victim is going to suffer the misfortune of running into them in the future anyway, and when they do, they stand the chance of the rapist using scumbags like you to protect them while they rub it in the victim’s face, or raping them again, or even killing. To which your ilk say nothing, write off and demand everyone else move on from, because your objective is to never allow violence to be used in a postive light, and you will go to any lengths to do so, even protecting rapists.

    That’s what actually happens to rape victims, pendejo.

    And you are perfectly content with that because justice to you isn’t protecting victims from rape, it’s protecting rapists from their victims so you don’t have to critically examine your deeply held personal beliefs.

    You’re sick.

    You’re so caught up in justifying your bloodlust that you lose sight of actually dealing with the issues you want to solve

    Holy shit, is that The Equalizer script in your hand? The Brave One’s? Can’t be Kill Bill; Quentin Tarantino isn’t that fucking retarded.

    Maybe Count of Monte Christo or The Last of Us 2 are not too subtle to get past your close minded rage.

    Oh, those are the scripts you’re reading from. Well, I appreciate your mask slipping.

    You have nothing to offer but false accusatory bullshit toward my current mood and thought terminating cliches you literally ripped off from a book and a video game.

    Honey, I’ve felt this way for 40 years. Do you really think you’re going to change my opinion?

    Do you think your hollow personal attacks or attempts to intimidate me on a federated website is going to do anything to convince anyone around you toward your way of thinking?

    Or could you perhaps admit that you never actually thought about the situation on your own and you’re desperately parroting dumb propaganda you watched in hopes of getting me to do what you want?

    You’re a fucking child. Grow up.

    Btw you ever read the parts of the punisher where he says that his existence is not something to want or desire and that he only exists when justice is broken.

    Do you ever read the parts where he is numb and suffers flashbacks because he has PTSD from his family being massacred?

    The parts where almost everyone else around him fawns over him in thanks for saving their lives? Their families? Their entire towns?

    There was an issue where a Mexican town begged for his help to save their daughters from the cartels. When he arrived, one of the women went to his room, got down on her knees and sucked his cock.

    There is more positivity than darkness in Punisher comics, but you don’t know about it because you don’t actually know anything about vengeance, justice, or protecting victims, because you are a sheltered, pampered, spoiled brat.

    Now go to your room and do your homework. Let the adults talk.

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      Protecting victims from rape involves dealing with the things that incentivize it before it happens. Killing people after a crime has been tried since Hammurabi. It doesn’t deter crime and we’ve had this data and analysis for quite some time now.

      You’re a violent, arrogant, and fallacious person that’s wrapped their ego around this issue so tightly that you can’t even read simple statements for what’s written, constantly sliding malicious assumptions and lobbing insults. Then when faced with any pushback you accuse me of maligning you as if you have no concept of hypocrisy.

      Good bye. Keep focusing on the set dressing of things like the punisher and not the actual message being conveyed. It really betrays how hollow and empty the toxic bile you’re lobbing is. If you’ve been this up your own ass for forty years then that’s a good enough sign that no one should bother interacting with you lest you snap at them.

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        Protecting victims from rape involves dealing with the things that incentivize it before it happens.

        No, protecting rape victims involves two things:

        1. Accepting the reality of the situation and the true motives of rapists

        2. Killing them

        But it makes sense that you’re actually just some anti-death penalty cultist butthurt that the existence of rape victims threatens your political agenda. It actually goes a long way toward explaining a lot of things, including why you throw rape victims – and victims of other crimes – under the bus for your goals. While trying and failing to morally condemn other people for disagreeing, having another moral outlook or telling you you’re wrong and what you’re doing is wrong.

        But for the reader, let’s go into the matter in some detail.

        The first thing you have to understand is that this fucking assclown thinks all crimes are statistical problems and the only way to solve a crime is not to treat it as a moral issue but to lower the statistical likelihood of it even happening in the first place. A requirement for their ideology is to subjugate victims, because they treat victims fighting back to defend or avenge themselves or to, you know, stop the rapist are part of the problem. For them, it’s about stopping the act of violence, no nuance, no empathy, no compassion whatsoever, and that means all people who use the tactic are equally problematic regardless of circumstances. That requires every member of the group to collectively decide to never use violence under any circumstance. You can see quite plainly why what they want simply isn’t realistic and is harmful and dangerous.

        Of course, normal people don’t think that way, so they have to dance around this point carefully. Because they make no moral distinction between victims and rapists – because they lack morals, honestly – they know the end result of their ideology is that innocent victims are subjugated en masse, but they don’t care about that and they don’t want you to really think about what they’re saying for fear you’ll realize the same.

        What they want is impossible and problematic because they ignore the fundamental nature of rape (and other serious crimes, but for today’s book report we’re focusing on rape. The admins better give me a good grade for this shit. At least hook me up with some Tylenol for putting up with this garbage. Or some good weed.🤦)

        Anyway, let’s parse this. The fundamental nature of rape is that it is a crime of sheer malice. Rapists do it because they’re either angry at people like their victims and want revenge, they feel entitled to the bodies of other people, they get off on subjugating others, or both.

        But don’t listen to me, listen to the rapists themselves who will tell you at length why they did what they did. Giant trigger warning for that.

        This is why it’s impossible to “deal with the things that incentivize it before it happens”. There’s nothing incentivizing it except a rapist’s own sick pleasure and determination to follow it through. The most you can do is condition boys from a young age not to rape, but that’s not going to convince people with a disposition to rape (including the women who rape. Yes, women rape men sometimes). They don’t care about other people. That’s the whole-ass point.

        The ones who rape out of a sense of entitlement are enabled and emboldened by scumfuck rape apologist dipshits like the clown I’m responding to. He already knows. He doesn’t give a shit. He won’t tell you that, though, but it’s obvious from the way he and people like him act in these debates. If he wanted to disincentivize rape, he’d stop fucking arguing about it and only condemn the rapists, but he doesn’t. By condemning the rape victims, he justifies the entitled rapist’s worldview that it’s partly the victim’s fault, the victim has to bear culpability and responsibility regardless, and that they can do what he wants because whenever they are confronted about their behavior, enablers like him will defend the rapist by condemning the victim.

        But the dude I’m responding to is an enabling piece of shit and he knows it.

        Like this:

        You’re a violent, arrogant, and fallacious person that’s wrapped their ego around this issue so tightly that you can’t even read simple statements for what’s written, constantly sliding malicious assumptions and lobbing insults. Then when faced with any pushback you accuse me of maligning you as if you have no concept of hypocrisy.

        It’s complete projection because guess what rape apologists like him do? Guess what he and his ilk have been doing throughout the whole thread? Some of those motherfuckers tried to use alts to win the argument.

        Enablers like him are sad, pathetic, and downright dangerous, because if you ever suffer some egregious crime, he will not support you, he will defend your attacker, try to personally attack you to demoralize you, and do everything possible to stymie justice and force you to tolerate the most insane and brutal violations of your rights, your person, and possibly even your own life just to satisfy his sick and twisted ideology.

        Stay away from scumfucks like him. Block him and the other apologists in the thread, do not engage.