Could be a US vs Europe thing, maybe a specific to Finland or the Scandinavia thing, but I generally doubt it and think you’re naïve to the experience of most people’s jobs. Britain is quite famously even more omni-surveilled than the US.
I work management in retail, cameras are literally everywhere (and being at least occasionally watched) that there could ever be a legal liability in any form (e.g. a worker or customer doing absolutely anything whatsoever), which is basically everywhere. Manufacturing is the same, cameras are everywhere. On paper it’s mainly for the liability reasons but surveillance is a nice bonus (or the real reason).
My mom worked in corporate telecommunications until last year when she retired, and her job frequently involved discussions about how the networks her company was installing enabled closer employee surveillance. Her stories from work are part of why I care to comment about this, it’s almost laughable to me to see someone thinking this isn’t common. It’s standard. It’s everywhere. The world became a panopticon a decade ago and you’re running late to the realization.
The world became a panopticon a decade ago and you’re running late to the realization.
Or maybe you’re just generalising your experiences and assuming that eg. the laws regarding what employers can do with cameras are the same everywhere?
Seconding Quill here, if you haven’t been living this your entire working career you’re one of vanishingly few lucky exceptions to the rule. Yes, the factual reality is that most workplaces at medium size or larger employers are in fact actual panopticons. There are exceptions, there always are. But that’s the reality on the ground in 2025.
Who were you talking about in the thread you linked then? Can’t be klay1@lemmy.world or Rivalarrival, because simple sabotage was never praxied in Finland.
There absolutely isn’t an argument like that. Where the hell have you people been working if you think most workplaces are like that?
Edit: yes, some of the methods definitely wouldn’t work because they’re outdated, but not because every single workplace is like the NSA
Edit part deux – the return of the Edit: also, I think a lot of you folks are forgetting that not every job is an IT job
where are you working that your computer isn’t overloaded with snitchware?
I’ve never, ever had a work computer with snitchware, and I’ve worked in multinational gaming companies.
I think this might be a USA vs Europe thing, because seriously this “every workplace is a panopticon” just isn’t a thing at least in Finland.
Also, not every workplace is something where you deal with computers etc. Manufacturing and so on still exist.
Could be a US vs Europe thing, maybe a specific to Finland or the Scandinavia thing, but I generally doubt it and think you’re naïve to the experience of most people’s jobs. Britain is quite famously even more omni-surveilled than the US.
I work management in retail, cameras are literally everywhere (and being at least occasionally watched) that there could ever be a legal liability in any form (e.g. a worker or customer doing absolutely anything whatsoever), which is basically everywhere. Manufacturing is the same, cameras are everywhere. On paper it’s mainly for the liability reasons but surveillance is a nice bonus (or the real reason).
My mom worked in corporate telecommunications until last year when she retired, and her job frequently involved discussions about how the networks her company was installing enabled closer employee surveillance. Her stories from work are part of why I care to comment about this, it’s almost laughable to me to see someone thinking this isn’t common. It’s standard. It’s everywhere. The world became a panopticon a decade ago and you’re running late to the realization.
Or maybe you’re just generalising your experiences and assuming that eg. the laws regarding what employers can do with cameras are the same everywhere?
aint no way you’re this dense. Just because your country isn’t surveillancing the planet, doesn’t meant the big 14 haven’t.
Seconding Quill here, if you haven’t been living this your entire working career you’re one of vanishingly few lucky exceptions to the rule. Yes, the factual reality is that most workplaces at medium size or larger employers are in fact actual panopticons. There are exceptions, there always are. But that’s the reality on the ground in 2025.
Are y’all Americans? Because that definitely isn’t the reality on the ground over here in Finland
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First time I’ve ever seen someone finnish-centric dissonance themselves in threadiverse.
Who was it then you were focusing on your cited🧵?
I was there in that thread too, making fun of [complying] liberals.
What as a Finnish person are you capable of directly sabotaging?
I have no idea what you’re trying to say here
Who were you talking about in the thread you linked then? Can’t be klay1@lemmy.world or Rivalarrival, because simple sabotage was never praxied in Finland.