Six officers who were injured in the crash are suing Tesla despite the fact that the driver was allegedly impaired

New Footage Shows Tesla On Autopilot Crashing Into Police Car After Alerting Driver 150 Times::Six officers who were injured in the crash are suing Tesla despite the fact that the driver was allegedly impaired

  • Thorny_ThicketEnglish
    1414·
    1 year ago

    Tesla on autopilot/FSD is almost 4 times less likely to be involved in a crash than a human driven Tesla which even then is half as likely to end up in a accident compared to average car. You not liking Musk fortunelately doesn’t change these facts.

    In the 2nd quarter, we recorded one crash for every 4.41 million miles driven in which drivers were using Autopilot technology (Autosteer and active safety features). For drivers who were not using Autopilot technology (no Autosteer and active safety features), we recorded one crash for every 1.2 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 484,000 miles.

    Source

    • tiny_electron@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      191·
      1 year ago

      There is a bias here in the numbers. Teslas are expensive and not everyone is buying them. The lower accident rate can be explained by the different demographic driving the vehicle rather than Teslas being better. For exemple, younger people might be more likely to cause accident because of different factors and they are also less likely to buy a Tesla because they are so expensive. I dont have the numbers for this, but we should all be careful with the claims of Tesla on safety when they compared themself to the global average.

      • Thorny_ThicketEnglish
        310·
        1 year ago

        Sure. There are always multiple factors in play. However I’d still be willing to bet that there’s nothing in Teslas that makes them inherently unsafe compared to other cars.

      • Thorny_ThicketEnglish
        511·
        1 year ago

        Perhaps. I’m sure you’ll provide me with the independent data you’re basing that “Teslas are not safe” claim on

          • narp@feddit.deEnglish
            53·
            1 year ago

            You made the first comment: “Teslas aren’t safe”, without providing proof.

            And now you’re calling someone a hypocrite because he asks for data of exactly what you claimed, while you’re redefining your first argument as “the contrary”.

            So, do you have proof that Tesla’s aren’t safe in comparison to other cars, or is it just your opinion?

              • narp@feddit.deEnglish
                32·
                1 year ago

                But you can’t base a fact on one accident. Or even multiple. What if newspapers like to write especially about Tesla accidents to generate clicks?

                Teslas seemingly have a lot of accidents, but without checking the statistics and comparing it to other manufacturers you wouldn’t really know if the perceived truth is a fact or not.

                • masterairmagic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  You’re right, but the automobile industy is too opaque to do this kind of study. Maybe the insurance companies have this data, but they.are not sharing it.

                  In the absence of such data we have to make do with what we have. What we are seeing are a lot of examples where Tesla’s are clearly doing irrational things and failing miserably. Youtube is not full of Mercedes cars failing miserably, eventhough there are a lot more Mercedes cars on the road.

                  • Thorny_ThicketEnglish
                    11·
                    1 year ago

                    The data is widely available and has been provided to you several times in this thread. You just refuse to accept it because it goes against your prior beliefs.

                    A person clearly can’t be reasoned out of a belief they weren’t reasoned into.

          • Thorny_ThicketEnglish
            36·
            1 year ago

            Tesla model Y scored the highest possible score on IIHS crash test as well as 5 stars on Euro NCAP

            Their other models have similar results. I believe Model X is the safest SUV ever made.

            EDIT:

            More than just resulting in a 5-star rating, the data from NHTSA’s testing shows that Model X has the lowest probability of injury of any SUV it has ever tested," Tesla said in a statement. "In fact, of all the cars NHTSA has ever tested, Model X’s overall probability of injury was second only to Model S.

            Source

            Also might want to check this

            EDIT2: Imagine downvoting the guy providing hard evidence and upvoting the fanatic making baseless claims backed by nothing

              • Thorny_ThicketEnglish
                34·
                1 year ago

                Or maybe you’re so blinded by the hatred towards Musk that you can’t even think straight and no evidence in the world could convince you otherwise?

                You really should’ve checked the last link.

    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.worldEnglish
      42·
      1 year ago

      almost 4 times less likely to be involved in a crash than a human driven

      Not relevant at all here, when we are discussing occurences that seem so easily and obviously avoidable.

      (But it’s nice to see that the Fanboi team is awake now)

      • masterairmagic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Tesla fails at basic safety in the most obvious and simple accidents (like this one or the car pileup at San Francisco tunnel).

      • Thorny_ThicketEnglish
        34·
        1 year ago

        We’re talking about overall safety here. Even with 99.99% safety rate you’re still getting 33000 accidents a year in the US alone. There’s always going to be individual incidents to talk about