• RaivoKulli
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    5 months ago

    I don’t see the connection between the this and the topic at hand

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      5 months ago

      They said that it would have been ok if they helped. That conditional statement doesn’t depend on whether or not they did intervene.

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        5 months ago

        Right but I don’t see the connection between the two things you are talking about

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          5 months ago

          Why don’t yousee the connection. Both are instances of covert violence by the US. One is a foreign affair, the other domnestic.

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            5 months ago

            We don’t know if CIA was involved in any sort or violence in ousting of Yanukovych

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              5 months ago

              That doesn’t matter for this original statement:

              If the CIA helped that’s fine, people like that should not be in power.

              We also don’t know if the FBI killed MLK. Does that mean that we can’t condemn them if they did it?

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                5 months ago

                They’re saying it’s okay if they helped but not saying to what extent it is okay to them, does murdering people count as helping etc. By asking you might get a feel what sort of actions they’re okay with.

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                  5 months ago

                  They’re saying it’s okay if they helped but not saying to what extent it is okay to them

                  It is imperialism either way. No matter the degree.

                  does murdering people count as helping etc.

                  Depends on who you ask. Both imperialism and covert murder by the state are done in the interest of the enacting nation. And I refuse to confuse these interests with my own (or those of “the people”).

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                    5 months ago

                    I just don’t think it counts as covert violence you mentioned earlier if CIA isn’t party to or in some degree involved in the violence