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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.nettoich_iel@feddit.orgich_iel
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    22 bis 6 Uhr wär meine Schätzung, wegen den Ruhezeiten.

    Ist so geregelt, dass die Arbeitende (Wortspiel nicht beabsichtigt) Bevölkerung sich auch ausruht. In den Zeiten darf glaub ich keine Hausdurchsuchungen durchgeführt werden.

    Und die beim Arbeitsamt haben ja Arbeitsschutz. /s

    Edit: zusätzlichen Kontext und Sarkasmus hinzugefügt.










  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netto Memes of Production@quokk.auvoting
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    3 days ago

    If you employ language where you lament people voting and even call them sheep when they don’t adhere to politics you condone worthy, you’re more cynical about elections than OP.

    Why do you complain about people refraining from attending elections if these people made up their minds that it’s inconsequential. That’s hating on the players, not the game.






  • Anarchy is authoritarian, anarchists just don’t know it.

    I’m sorry, but you prove you have no idea about anarchism. The whole philosophical field of anarchism is based on power analysis, so it’s quite the feat for you to prove such a wild claim.

    Yes, some people have natural talents in In general, the thing you call “leadership”: coordination or persuation of others. Or they have a talent in tactics and strategy. (Although people do like to have a say in the things your leaders decide - they just dislike the burden of responsibility)

    But anarchists don’t deny that fact. Quite the opposite: they aim for social structures where people with these talents can’t accumulate structural hierarchies and monopolize decision making power.

    Hate to be that guy, but you simply have no idea what you’re talking about.

    That’s the entire reason so many people are attracted to fascism.

    Umm…no. People are drawn to fascism, because they have a nationalistic worldview, where their nation is constructed for their benefit and their natiod is superior to other nations. That belief contradicts with a real-life lowering of living standard: “If the nation is there for my benefit and it should be at the top, why is my life still so miserable? Must be the weak people which sleazily spoil the true glory of our nation: the queers/transes/foreigners/Sinti/Roma/jews.” Additionally, there’s the belief that democracy wwakens the glory of the nation, so it needs a supreme leader which brings it back on track.

    So, no: People not wanting to take “leadership” (or rather: responsibility) is **definetly not “the entire reason” why people are attracted to fascism. That makes historically absolutely no sense at all.

    Leaders will emerge in your anarchist paradise, and people will follow.

    I’m not talking about a utopia, but of strategies to achieve a more liberatory world. And these strategies prevent such monopolization of power.

    Without liberalism as a check on their power, the very first crisis that comes along will turn anarchy directly into fascism.

    What exactly do you mean by these words? I don’t believe that you have a coherent definition of any of the terms “liberalism”, “anarchy” and “fascism”. And if yes: how is “liberalism” supposed to keep power in check. Last time I checked, liberalism guarantees the power of the powerful by guaranteeing private property and the continued accumulation of wealth.

    For reference, I point to all the people in HOAs.

    I’m not really too familiar with that concept, since I don’t live in the US. But aren’t these things more or less only liked by people who want to maintain/improve their property value and universally hated? Or at least universally hated if they’re not democratically managed?

    Even to get to anarchy in the first place is going to require authoritarianism.

    sigh Please define what you mean with “authoritarianism”, because we definetly don’t agree on terms here. Authoritarianism (by my definition) is a social structure that tends to monopolize decision making power. That is contradictory to anarchism.

    You don’t make massive societal transformations without forcing it on people.

    You don’t keep the current societal order upright without forcing it on people. You’re not talking about authoritarianism, you’re talking about violence, i.e. the imposition of one’s will over another. But violence will always exist. You’re just morally justifying a cop’s violence in favour of the status quo. Liberalism doesn’t have a problem with people starving because they don’t have any bread.

    If I don’t want to live in anarchy, how are you going to force me?

    You can always chose to subjugate yourself. But if you want to enact nonconsensual subjugation on others, they have the right to self-defence.


  • As if you have demonstrated evidence of any sort?

    That’s literally what you said, my homie: “Those two things happeded at the same time” means it’s a correlation. Scientifically it’s your burden to proof that it’s actually a causal relation afterwards.

    Yes, we have established that you disagree. Not that you have provided any evidence whatsoever that a lower minimum can be reached by another path

    Yes. Better living standards have been reached outside the framework of liberal democracy. In fact: All significant improvements in living standards have been fought for outside the system. Examples are: Any successful, liberatory revolution. (Like the french one, or the German one.

    And yeah, the totalitarian path to a better minimum has been tried multiple times. It didn’t work out so well.

    I agree. That’s why I’m not an authoritarian, but an anarchist.


  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.nettoMemes@lemmy.mlChoose Wisely
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    I’m just gonna ignore your campist gish-gallopping if you don’t even bother to skim the video. You’re not interested in engaging in critique that contradicts your worldview. Just like people in a cult would do.

    The images very much embody what PRC is actually doing.

    You still failed to explain what we’re actually seeing on the left. It’s visually indistinguishable from green capitalism, so you failed in using a picture to promote whatever the PRC is doing.

    TIL tha green LEDs will safe the environment. /s

    Edit: Lol, you posted the first thing you found when you googled Zapatista dissolution, didn’t you? The Zapatistas restructured their autonomous approach. They didn’t abandon autonomy. They still exist, therefore they didn’t fail.


  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.nettoMemes@lemmy.mlChoose Wisely
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    6 days ago

    You told me you reject existing socialist projects

    Not all of them. Just the state-capitalist ones which claim to be socialist. Do you condone everything done in the name of socialism? Because that’s not possible with a coherent worldview. You’d have to both condone the Kronstadt rebellion, as well as it’s crushing. (Even if you claim that Kronstadt was a ploy of the whites: the official reasoning was a socialist one)

    and we have not seen any viable alternative demonstrated in over a century.

    That’s not true. Anarchist Catalonia was less than 100 years ago. Rojava and the Zapatistas still exist as well.

    Also, there’s a materialist reason, why so many countries imitate the Bolsheviki.

    And no, I don’t believe there is one correct way to enact a transitional period.

    Then why do you reject critique of the chinese government with the claim that it must be necessary?

    What I believe is that there is one DEMONSTRATED way to do this, and that nobody has shown a viable alternative. If there was a workable alternative then we could discuss it. It does not exist.

    The only reason you claim that is because you ignore every non-Leninist/Maoist project and also ignore all the states where ML/MLMism failed. Why is the soviet union supposedly viable, but anarchist catalonia isn’t. The success rate of Marxism-Leninism and it’s offshoots is less that 10%.

    You want to come back to your original point of rejecting real working socialism that’s tangibly improving people’s lives in China in favor of some mythical idea that you’re evidently unable to articulate. Go troll elsewhere.

    No. I’ve stated my original point several times: the images on the left are eco-virtue signaling, which can be found in capitalist states. If you wanted to show how the PRC improved the lives of its’ denizens (which I don’t even disagree with - but so has Sweden), you’ve chosen bad examples.

    If you want to see green LEDs in subway stations, you don’t have to go to China. The thing you’ve posted is existing in bourgeois states. You’ve failed to show how “actual existing socialism” is improving one’s life. If given these two options (green LEDs vs. concrete hell), I’ll take neither.

    Maybe I lack context. If you think I’m wrong, you could focus on my original critique (before you defended China against phantom attacks) and explain what I’m seeing on the left. But I guess that any example you give will have an equivalent in an openly capitalist state.


  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.nettoMemes@lemmy.mlChoose Wisely
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    6 days ago

    No, the fantasy is that you’re magically going to end up in a worker ownership utopia going from the current capitalist relations.

    You’re jumping to conclusions. I never told you how I think the transition to socialism is supposed to ocmur, yet you claim that I think it will “magically” happen. You’re fighting strawmen.

    It’s incredible that somebody could be so infantile as to think there wouldn’t be some sort of a transition period after the working class takes power and has to fight against the dominant capitalist empire that tries to extinguish every socialist project.

    Good thing I believe that a transitional period is necessary, then. Yet you seem to believe that there is only one correct way to enact that transitional period, which I find incredibly naive. Pretty much as naive as trying to negate means-ends unity. Especially since there have been multiple examples of socialism-aligned projects that don’t follow the ML/MLM-model.

    Also, there’s nothing magical about prefiguration, either.

    Try to put at least a bit of effort into your trolling not to make it so transparent.

    Lol. Projection much, comrade “prefiguration equals magic”?

    I want to come back to my original point: the picture on the left is nothing but eco-virtue signaling and completely compatible with bourgeois ideology. So nothing new for the so-called PRC.