- cross-posted to:
- ukraine
- cross-posted to:
- ukraine
Ukrainian president says Brasília-Beijing initiative shows “lack of respect” toward Kyiv’s position.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused Brazil of being pro-Russia in the Kremlin’s war on Ukraine and lambasted a joint peace proposal drawn up by Brasília and Beijing.
“The Chinese-Brazilian proposal is also destructive, it’s just a political statement,” Zelenskyy said during an interview with Brazilian news site Metrópoles on Wednesday evening.
Brazil and China signed a joint statement in May calling for peace talks involving both Russia and Ukraine. However, according to the Ukrainian president, the two countries consulted Moscow but not Kyiv.
“We are not stupid,” Zelenskyy said during the interview. “How can you offer ‘here is our initiative’ without asking anything from us?” He added, “This is a lack of respect toward Ukraine.”
Well… yeah. Brazil’s the B in BRICS and Russia’s the R, so Brazil is officially pro-Russia.
And by the bye - China’s the C.
Lula doesn’t seem quite as straightforwardly pro-Russia as Bolsanaro was, but its very clear their economic association with Russia makes them unable to truly be neutral arbiters of the situation, no matter how much Lula wants to present Brazil as attempting to be neutral.
He’s even more pro-Russian…
"Lula argued in early April that Ukraine should consider ceding the Crimean Peninsula to negotiate peace with Russia, saying that “Zelensky cannot want it all.” "
That’s right, Ukraine should not want their whole country, they should stop being ‘selfish’ and give in to Lula’s benefactors demands… He’s a flog.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13523260.2024.2384004#abstract
In fact, when losing a war miserably, one should expect to make concessions to the winning side. This delusional belief that losers can dictate term terms will result in the death of every Ukrainian man of fighting age.
OK Chinese troll.
I wish. Min wage in some parts of China provides a similar purchasing power as I have making more than 4x the min wage in the US. I would actually be able to afford a house in my lifetime if that were true.
In other news, Germany should be allowed to keep half of Poland and the Sudetenland.
We don’t do right of conquest anymore because we recognized how it obviously incentivizes more wars of aggression and the associated humanitarian disasters.
True, Russia should give a quarter of it’s territory to Ukraine and limp home.
Yet he’s carrying a Russian proposal straight out to Ukraine… so different.
Came to say this. Brazil is going to align themselves politically with these countries in the coming years.
Just because I found it’s interesting and tangentialy related, here’s a bunch of statistics on the BRICS States by the German federal office of statistics.
https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Laender-Regionen/Internationales/Thema/allgemeines-regionales/BRICS/_inhalt.html
Auto-translate should work. The statistic on CO₂ Emissions might be slightly unfair, as I assume a lot of that is directly, or indirectly related to production for G7 countries.
India the I
South Africa the S
India and China hate each other very much, yet are on the same alliance.
And Russia is allied with both.
Hmm…
And also Egypt and Ethiopia were there.
BRICS is more about resisting european hegemony to establish a new hegemony than anything. As a unit, sometimes they’ll say something real as hell, but generally speaking 90% of what they do is the same evil backstabbing shit we always talk about the US doing to influence global economics and sustain power. When BRICS is taken into consideration with the G-7 what we actually see is a two party system of global torture that more than anything wants to maintain the basic status quo, they just want to shift slightly who’s on top