So you’re genuinely advocating breaking international law?

No, I just believe that the EU will break the law and attack, like members already did in Libya and Iraq.

I can also say that I was not the one talking about fantasies.

Edit and yes, there is a need to wait for Ukraine EU membership

Is there a reason for that? UN article 51 seems to allow support of other countries if they are attacked.

Too simple for an explanation, they are not stupid.

Ukraine soldiers are trained for 3 months. There can’t be much infrastructure needed for an attack since the battle is on enemy territory when it starts.

Also, surely you’re aware that wars of aggression are banned in international law?

Iraq, Libya and others. At worst we call it a special military operation in support of Ukraine.

That’s why we need to get Ukraine to the EU, so that then it’s not a war of aggression, but honoring the mutual defense clause.

I guess there is no need to wait for EU membership to help a country in need.

Oh and, in which country’s military forces would you be participating in this attack fantasy?

None. After these comments at most they will use me for medical support.

So the laws won’t protect the children. Then why do those laws exist?

That’s why the new weapons are needed, to prepare for an attack.

Why else would Europe need those weapons? Russia has problems fighting Ukraine. How could they fight Europe?

Btw, I say we because any serious war will use the entire population, like Ukraine.

A European attack is prevented by critical voices from within Europe. If those voices are removed we will attack despite the threat of nuclear bombs.

By presenting an arbitrary other motivation, which implies that there is no obvious motivation.

Yet why does my reasoning not make sense? We fought in Libya. Everybody hates Russia and would be eager to fight if Russia didn’t have nuclear bombs. Remove the critical voices and we are ready to go.

It could be. So you agree that the surveillance laws don’t make much sense?

Are people that stupid to overvalue Tesla that much for years or is somebody stabilizing the market rate? Somebody is playing 5D chess but it is not Musk.

True if you narrow down the in-group enough and are part of it.

Why else would it be introduced? If they don’t plan to lock down the entire internet, the age verification is useless. It could be security theater but it receives full media attention. So it is important. What else but war could be so important that it demands so much power over civil liberty?

This is going to happen. The European age verification and messenger surveillance are preparations to control any remaining opposition for that war.

Then said he used that for evil as he trashed all his friends and wives in a patty

That would mean that Epstein had nothing on Trump. Would Trump betray Epstein’s friends if Epstein could destroy him?

Die aus Kasachstan stammende

Schau an ihnen, blutige Katholiken

Why did you agree to my argument that they are essentially the same?

Sure, that’s all obviously true

Sure, that’s all obviously true. But Europe’s situation is still not “essentially the same as” China’s.

Of course, the law is not active yet. Once activated, what would be different?

If you can’t verify your age you can’t access those services. That’s the same as

Chinese citizens may soon find themselves dependent on government-issued digital credentials for even the most basic freedoms

The thing that Europe cannot do is associate users to accounts in a convenient way. But everybody who doesn’t use a VPN can be identified by their IP address and everybody else in the same way TOR users can be identified.

Add the planned access to messenger service E2E encryption as well as the planned huge military spending and we must be heading towards funny times.

Children can be protected by other means.

One more prediction:

EU age verification infrastructure will be used to block adults from accessing the internet as punishment or to censor opinions.

Meanwhile the EU is creating consensus for an anonymous age verification infrastructure.

The social networks won’t know the names of the users but the EU will be able to block people from accessing all social networks by blocking their age verification account.

It’s essentially the same.

Der Wettbewerb mit dem Westen sollte allerdings schon für bessere Konditionen sorgen.