This community was created by Drew DeVault. But I think he is not interested, but you can ask him.

Fixed. I have added, then added a picture and link to the picture has replaced the site link.

Thank you. That’s what most of developers need to realize.

Agreed. Teams are a powerful option.

I am working at same company almost 20 yers and yes I burned out several times. I have sport, healthy food and hobbies like learning new tech. These 3 things are enough for me.

Why am I creating these posts? Not because I want to sabotage the infrastructure or do not recognize new technologies and programming languages. Undoubtedly, new languages must appear and they must compete, because this is a natural process, of evolution. I just want to understand the mood of the C community itself. It’s lukewarm on this platform. Nobody is against new languages, and they can be used together with C or as an alternative. But here we are talking about a complete replacement. So, working with memory directly is the job of whom? The chosen ones? The units that will sit behind the compilers? What about the rest? Only fulfill commercial orders? Is this engineering? Is this programming?

I look at how programming has changed over the course of 25 years, what they teach at universities, and where they start. And I came to the conclusion that on a large scale, it was all for the benefit of giant companies or the government.

We must protect the “intimate” knowledge of the foundations and water the roots ourselves. Because they don’t realize, they don’t see that if the roots are not watered, the branches on which they sit will dry out. Therefore, who, if not us? Thanks, everyone!

If you can’t give me poetry, can’t you give me poetical science? © Ada Lovelace

Interesting, if you subscribed to the C lang community and downvote posts that support C… Who are you? Rust agents? 😁

Languages have advocates, but for Rust, it looks like advocates have a language.

Companies will follow recommendations, but independent C programmers must not follow them. Time will show us. But I believe C will never die.

Read about platform support, and faq. You should prefer custom installation, example for FreeBSD.

And are you rustacean?

Thank you for benchmark. Python is a player, lol.

Rust is very overhyped and I do not accept its syntax, boring. I like C and Hare. I am not a system dev, it’s just a hobby, so my opinion can’t be proved by solid experience. But I came to C after learning and trying using Rust in a hobby game dev. Hare I like to have in my backpack as an alternative, fresh and developing tool. It is not overhyped and his team are not trying to reach popularity. Just making not bad language. IMHO.

Some devs just learn new languages to expand their view or to avoid burnout. Yes, I agree that memory safety is not a problem and all these C-killers suck. Hare is not positioned as a C killer, it can be used together with C.

And look at today’s situation in the industry. Try to say in the Rust community “Rewrite it in C” or suggest some newcomers to write in pure C some app. All these commercial developments smell bulked overhyped technologies that have only one goal - make money for companies and companies support these tech. All job offers do not expect you to be an expert in computer internals or C, or even JavaScript. You just need to know the frameworks.

All of these bring pure software quality. C will never die, and those who write on it will do. But newcomers need something different and better it will be as efficient as C.

It is just one point of view…

You can ask about it on the official IRC channel. The creator of the Hare is based there.

Using C and other languages is just a choice of tool in particular cases. People who are looking for a C replacement just do not want to accept reality or are hype-driven. You can use C, Hare, and something else at the same time. And Hare is not going to replace C and nobody of the main developers said about it.

Hare has an IRC official channel, but not all have IRC and want to use it. I think that using matrix space/rooms can add life to the Hare community.

Thank you for your support. Yes, and new tech is not always good.

Almost all what is going on today in commercial development is based on knowing frameworks and existing libraries and is far from engineering. I am working in that 19 years and also feel that am not a true engineer, at least at my job. Yes, I developed my own UI client framework, but who know it, who need it except my company… I am not in the 5% of top world engineers. And you know what I think, I do not care. Do f#$*k off, commercial development. I have hobbies, I learn languages that I like and writing code just for fun, solving problems on codewars. I believe that true thech like C and freebsd, emacs and some other not popular in commercial development programming languages is my way. And yes, I am earning money at my job, but at the same time, as I said, I tell all these overhyped shit “do f#@&k off” and going my own way. That’s my life. Have a luck, bro. Find your own path.

https://github.com/ringabout/awesome-nim

Why did you forgot Nim? Is it a player?

Thank you for answer. You helped me.