Interesting points, very nice to get them from someone’s different perspective, thanks.

‘Idealists’ like myself catch a lot of flak over this exact issue. To me, it’s largely a matter of principle, so I think we should do it anyway. I feel strongly that it isn’t our responsibility to make sure every base is covered before making revolutionary change.

I believe that hierarchy is bad, so we should get rid of it. Yes, that then makes us a target for new oppressors, but we’re only not a target now because we already have oppressors

Let’s say it was done then, how would it avoid being exploitable by those oppressors?

We actually also don’t even need to eat meat nowadays, plenty of ways to fill your vitamin needs in a healthier way… of course, it’s not cheap for everyone.

Nordic countries seem to have been voting for more competent politicians than the rest of the world, at least. They ain’t perfect but it’s not like every other country hasn’t set a low bar to beat it.

Well, Finland isn’t scandinavian though, but I do get your point. However, they do benefit from some worries to lessen so they can focus in other priorities, not justifying it but there is a silver lining, I agree once they should become more independent would somehow be better but it’s not like they ain’t countries who has a dark past of going through wars because of the SS and Soviet Union, Nordic and Balkan countries share that in common hence why I hardly think they’ll become more independent unless it’s to “replace” with European hegemony if Europe stops relying on USA. Finland, for example, was politically neutral for decades til recently now increasing their reliance on the USA just as the rest of Europe, wars really postpone the ability of a large sum of countries ability on becoming more independent. A world withour war? I wish, but that’ll stay a wishful thought. List of wars since World War Ii:

• 1945-1989
• 1990-2002
• 2003-present

But it is closer than people living in capitalist countries are, correct? I guess it is sort of a progress at least (if it is, maybe I’m thinking the wrong way?), also do you mean society as a whole as in the whole world to be cashless or countries since it’d be a less radical change, and if so, wouldn’t these cashless societies become targets of the rest of the world? I can’t seem to think a middle way through to reach to that end goal

Finland gave away land to Russia to keep peace and they never asked for it back, Sweden could still be an empire but it isn’t, they’re not nuclead states but they are not 3rd world country either, in fact, their political crisis seem like a joke when you compare to how the rest of the world is when they are in the midst of a political crisis I think Nordic countries are a lot better to debate when it comes to this than what UK, Portugal, US, Germany, France, Russia, China has been doing for pretty long or used to, they definitely set the bar really low so every argument against state seem even enraging, rightfully

I could just being biased so don’t take it any of my say as a good point, I just want to discuss in regards to it, you do have good points

Sorry if its a dumb question, but if its to compare to another political spectrum in regards to what it can do to more peoppe, wouldn’t it be better to compare with social democracy? Finland is social democrat, people has affordable healthcare etc (except mental health access - not impossible but harder than anything else), they tax the rich, rich committing crimes punishable by fines get a way bigger fine compared to the middle class. Do you mean hierarchy is bad in any case? In regards to technology, I’d be inclined to say people in power are doing a shitty job, but anything else depends subjectively, I find Nordic countries a better reference to compare than countries like USA/Germany/France, you can see people on the happiness index (said by many its more of feeling gratitude and satisfied) many of the countries on top are Nordic countries, they also regulate tech better compared to other countries (for example, Iceland - referring to them as a good example of a country properly regulating tech, its not perfect but its not like the rest of the world isn’t setting a really low bar)

What a depressing read this is, OpenAI has scraped tons of books and trying to scrape the entire internet and they don’t have to worry much, but ordinary people have to think twice for scanning and donating the physical book to someone who might benefit from it, such a dystopic reality

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I hadn’t thought about that… when there was an exodus last year or 2022 I think? Mastodon received a lot of users and mastodon.social temporarily closed sign ups, probably because of this. It’s also a lot more convenient and easier switch to BlueSky, official app very Twitter-like web UI also Twitter-like, it certainly provides a more convenient switch to people who just don’t to stress on the smallest things, also just create account with a default instance pre-selected (which a lot of those migrating there are confused why usernames contain the instance after the username). Pixelfed does a lot better in those terms comparing to what it aims to be an alternative of (Instagram) than Mastodon does with too many choices most people will be lost even more the people who know very little about tech and don’t even know the difference of centralized and decentralized. I’ve came across this post on Mastodon (from another Lemmy post) which is very concerning though… but again, these people won’t care about that, it’s all about convenience for most of them and BlueSky is doing it well.

Well, comparing to Twitter… you can use their API, BlueSky is open-source and you can partially self-host. A lot better but you also could very likely be right about it being a trap.

He will be part of the government so technically a state-affiliated media at best… or simply state media, I don’t think it will close anytime soon now. Maybe after 2028 (if ever?), there are so many bots there its hard to know how many are genuinely true people

Sigh, that was an eye-opening depresing read… thanks for sharing!

Mastodon should revamp the project’s website homepage and promote a mobile apps with the closest Twitter-like feel or maybe a page for it without giving too many options (so people trying to promote it would share the link and people who aren’t familiar with federation not think its weird “non-official” websites promoting multiple apps), these people just want convenience and most are mobile users. I wish most would go to Mastodon but there are so many barries going from something quick and convenient like Twitter to something like a Fediverse social media, I think Pixelfed catches this issue better of looking closer to what people are used to (in their case, an alternative to Instagram) than Mastodon (alternative to Twitter)

Not only federates but can also be partially self-hosted and is also open-source - by the way, I don’t mean it’s perfect but a lot better to reach people from there than Twitter, but be wary of this), anyone knowledgeable of US politics will know the names mentioned and how shady it looks. I still think Mastodon isn’t ready for this kins of exodus. People who waited this long to leave either wants convenience or is waiting for some of the people they follow go elsewhere, or both. Mastodon has too many mobile apps options, BlueSky official app is so much closer to how Twitter looks like and people are used to and don’t need to choosee instance as it already comes pre-selected by default (although people can change). Then comes the issue of scability if there was an instance to be the “default” for these people who just want quick and convenient alternative, will it be able to handle this much people at once? I have no idea but I doubt it. Most of us who go find alternative in the Fediverse is aware privacy-focused alternatives usually more than often comes at the price of convenience, not really the mindset those people are in, hopefully some of them get into it by learning what decentralization is from BlueSky?

4 years if laws and constitution stay the same and are followed… first term he had people alienated into him who were at least slightly appropriated for their positions, this time people who has nothing to do with their positions are being appointed simply for being loyal to him… Let’s see if any of them won’t let him do anything drastic within 4 YEARS

That definitely makes a difference, you can choose which but by default it already selects one so some people won’t even change it for convenience, however, that’s not a thing on Mastodon so… Also, a lot of those are mobile users and BlueSky has a lot more Twitter-like familiar UI than Mastodon apps (maybe I’m wrong and if so, point me to which one because there are so many… there goes another issue and convenience out of the window for people who just don’t care about searching and wants something to be done quick - so basically most of Twitter users that still didn’t leave it or went to BlueSky)

At least it can be bridged, and people can partially self-host. If you take a look at Mastodon and Bluesky, you’ll quickly realize the gap between Twitter-like feel between Bluesky and Mastodon, maybe a different interface that puts it more close to Twitter and mobile apps with it would help… a lot of Twitter users used it on mobile app.