I think you’re just seeing @serfraser@sopuli.xyz’s downvote, they’re on your same instance and commented below that they also downvoted.
I think you’re just seeing @serfraser@sopuli.xyz’s downvote, they’re on your same instance and commented below that they also downvoted.
Nooooot exactly.
See the way federation works is that each community on each instance has a list of other instances that has at least one subscriber on it. Every time someone does something on that community, such as commenting/voting/posting, it sends that information out to every instance on its list.
So say there’s three instances (A, B, and C).
A has 1000 users.
B has 500
C has 10,000
Let’s say they’re all subscribed to some particular community on instance B.
A user on Instance A comments on a post. Instance A sends this comment to Instance B. Instance B tells Instance C about it so everybody is synced up (and presumably, tells A just to confirm they’ve received it).
So one action means instance B has to send out 1 or 2 messages to other servers, and in just those two messages was able to serve 11k users (plus it’s own 500)
Now let’s say all 11,500 users ran their own instance, and this community was on one of them. Again, it’s a super popular community and everyone else is subscribed. Call it instance X.
Now, someone comments on a post on this community. Instance X now has to send a message to 11,499 instances. Every single action on this hypothetical network will cause several thousand messages to fly between them. Not efficient to say the least.
Very nice!
As I was able to confirm, looks like anyone else on the same instance can see my downvotes. But not anyone on any other instance, even if they have downvotes too.
Okay so I’ve confirmed it.
When downvoting content on an instance that doesn’t allow downvotes, you can see only the downvotes that come from other users on your instance. I can see two downvotes now, which happened just after I used a second account to downvote.
Downvoted as well. Looks like no since other people have also downvoted you and you’re still at 1
I’ll have to test- maybe other users on my instance can see my downvotes, but they won’t federate because BeeHaw rejects them. And therefore no other instance can see them.
Edit: Okay so I’ve confirmed it.
When downvoting content on an instance that doesn’t allow downvotes, you can see only the downvotes that come from other users on your instance. I can see two downvotes now, which happened just after I used a second account to downvote.
Well you’re a beehaw user. I’m not, and I can actually downvote things here. I’m just not sure if it actually effects anything.
How does it work if a user on another instance (that has downvotes enabled) downvotes comments on BeeHaw.org communities? Are they ignored? Can other instances see them?
Same here - https://lemmy.rogers-net.com
Looking to keep mine small like 100 users (I’ll see how much resources that takes, then decide if I want more) so I don’t incur large bills but want to do my part. Not really anticipating any real “local” community but since everything is federated, you can always subscribe to any communities on any other instances and just live in your “Subscribed” tab, fully enjoying the Lemmy experience like any big instance. And of course users on other instances can use a community you set up here.
Federates with NSFW servers (that don’t have abhorrent content, I defederated/blocked burggit), if that’s something you’re looking for.
Well I’m not sure how you expect that to work… especially moderation/rules wise.
Yeah it would be cool if we didn’t have to see the instance name but I don’t think it’s too big a deal. Just subscribe to the better one and never worry about it.
Keep in mind that the upcoming Lemmy update will probably fix this I think. (Replacing websockets)
It’s all managed through ICANN (The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers)
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/register-domain-name-2017-06-20-en
Are more simple explanation to your question: https://www.thesitewizard.com/domain/register-with-icann-sans-middlemen.shtml
Oh I don’t think it’s quite ready for everyday use, it works okay for a bit of scrolling. But the dev is updating it pretty often and wants to get everything working (at least the basics) by the end of the month
You’d be surprised how fast Mlem is coming along.
But for now just open the home page of your instance in Safari, hit “share” then “add to Home Screen” works okay
By moderating it, as I said some is necessary obviously.
I just don’t like the “police” comparison. There are ways to motivate people to keep order without sending armed state goons to kill or imprison you.
I know your comment isn’t really about the metaphorical “village”, but police as we know them today are a far more modern conception than we think. Plenty of societies/villages/whatever did fine without such a force.
I don’t think we need the police comparison…
Some moderation is necessary, but if things get out of hand your instance will just be defederated. So it is more self regulating than you suggest.
Especially since “villages” can completely block an entire other “village”.
Keeps communities that don’t want to be isolated more reasonable without having hardline rules
Eh. You can find a cozy little community on another instance and have it feel like home. Especially if you have a “display name” which will make it hard for anyone to even see you’re from another instance unless they actually check
Messages/Notifications aren’t implemented yet, FYI. But the dev is working hard to get at least all the basics up by July 1
Eh?
I like their DNS management and the fact that they only charge the minimum fee to renew domains. But I don’t use their DDoS protection or proxy services or anything.