Fascists view themselves as the ‘connective tissue’ holding their civilization together and protecting it from nefarious “OUTSIDERS”.

That’s a dangerously broad definition that effectively describes almost every modern political party today. Most people want to protect their community, both from threats internal and external. When Joe Biden talks about his need to protect the “soul of the nation” from an outsider like Trump, that fits your definition exactly. When Democrat activists argue they need to punch conservative political pundits for saying things they don’t like, that fits your definition exactly.

Hitler hated communism, not socialism. The two are not the same. Hitler very much loved socialism.

That’s actually completely right. You can’t understand WWII without reading about the prior century, especially the history of colonialism.

The chief reason WWII happened was because Japan and Germany looked around and saw a US-Anglo global hegemony forming. The British had pretty aggressively expanded their empire world-wide, killing millions along the way, and were using that as economic leverage to bully everyone else. In the US, well, they did the same thing, but throughout the North American continent, and were beginning to expand globally as well.

Both Japan and Germany, who previously hadn’t done much colonial expansion, realized they could sit home doing nothing and become feudal states to a US/British alliance, or try carving out their own empires by invading their weaker neighbors like the British and Americans had done. And, of course, they took that chance, which ultimately failed since they started way too late in the game. The US had an entire well established continent of resources, and the British controlled global trade and the world’s largest navy.

Ironically, the modern EU, now dominated by Germany, is pretty close to Hitler’s original vision of Europe, albeit without quite as much bloodshed or ethnic “purity”. It’s a continent-spanning political system where almost all of Europe is economically and militarily unified under German leadership.

Nazis weren’t fascists. Fascism was an Italian political philosophy.

The argument comes from historians who know how to read books and are aware of all the socialist programs the German National Socialists instituted as part of their socialist ideology.

The idea that the Nazis weren’t socialists comes from sheltered kids who got their entire history education about the early 1900s from Hollywood war movies that depict Germans as either murderous psychopaths or blank faced robots to be gunned down FPS-style by the “good guys.”

But they always hated and fought against real socialist and anarchists.

That’s a No True Scottsman argument.

The Nazis instituted a ton of socialist welfare programs, issued a lot of propaganda to that effect, and even instituted universal healthcare and free higher education.

By the textbook definition, they were socialists.

Nazis were socialists. It’s literally in the name. National Socialists. Hitler instituted a ton of government welfare programs for Germans.

As much as I detest socialists, to be fair to them, Hitler’s brand of socialism was also coupled with jingoism, which called for those socialist programs to be provided for by invading all “lesser” peoples and taking their stuff.

Socialists hate being reminded that the National Socialists were, in fact, socialists and believed in things like the “right” to housing, food, healthcare.

All provided by a benevolent government that definitely would always have their best interests in mind and would never do anything evil.

Yeah, it’s pretty transparent lefty propaganda. Whatever happened to “my body my choice”?

It’s proof even liberals don’t even completely trust the vaccine, since if they believed it worked, it wouldn’t matter if you took it or not.

The real dangerous aspect to this is there’s no exit strategy to the left’s vision. Scientists are predicting Covid isn’t going away. It’s literally a strain of the flu, which mutates every year, just like the flu. If you believe huge sections of the economy have to be shut down, and everyone has to take rushed expensive vaccines twice a year, and we can’t be within 6 feet of another living person, or else everyone’s going to die, you’ll be living like that for the rest of your life.

You’re making several false assumptions. The working class, who are largely young and healthy, aren’t dying in any meaningful way from not taking the vaccine. They’re more likely to die in a car crash or from heart disease, than from Covid.

Oh no, people who believe it’s their body and therefore their choice! Heavens to meteoroid!

Don’t those fools realize that without the vax, they risk a 0.0001% chance of death?!?!?!

Don’t do it, GOP. Those traitors were willing to look the other way while widespread “voting irregularities” happened, yet were super happy to support a 2 year long $40 million investigation into how Trump could have possibly won the 2016 election despite no reports of voting irregularities.

If you’re going to win, grow a pair and hold these corrupt corporations accountable for once instead of selling your soul to them.

Yep, that’s how political cartoons work. Everything in them is literal. In one, Ben showed Fauci as a kitchen faucet.

He wants to turn Fauci into a piece of plumbing! Who will stop this madman?!?!?!

For the liberals in this thread, the above comments were satire and should not be interpreted literally.

Before I was allowed to take the vaccine, I had to sign a waiver saying that I understood the vaccine had not undergone full testing, and that if I were to experience any injury or, God forbid, death, it was not the fault of the government or Johnson & Johnson.

Do you really think it’s reasonable to demonize people who don’t want to sign such a waiver over a disease that, statistically, most have no chance of dying from?

Found the peaceful tolerant liberal…

You seem to be struggling with the idea that tolerance is a boolean attribute you either have or don’t have. I think you know that’s untrue. Everyone tolerates most things while not tolerating some things.

I’ve been to a few MAGA rallies. I never saw any Nazi flags there. However, I have seen a ton of lefty protesters operating false flags and trolls.. Those dopes always get booed and thrown out.

The criticism of communism isn’t that it has an explicit racial component that wants to kill racial minorities. It’s that it has an ill-founded economic and psychological component that has the effect of killing lots of people.

When the Russian communists forcibly confiscated Ukrainian farm land and then tried to have them run by government commissars in one big mass farm system, they were doing it with the good intentions by trying to use use economies of scale to provide more food for everyone.

The problem was they robbed the actual farmers of agency and destroyed the actual motivation to efficiently grow food. Government employees, who get compensated whether they grow little food or a lot of food, are going to naturally maximize their personal gain. Since that gain couldn’t be monetary, all they could do was minimize their own expense and effort. So they spent as little effort as possible, and those farms largely failed.

That lead to famine and mass starvation that was so bad, when the Nazis invaded Ukraine during WWII, some Ukrainians temporarily welcomed them as liberators.

That’s why most of the modern day governments that still call themselves communist or socialist have largely abandoned the economic ideals of communism and have almost all adopted free market systems.