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  • Are you referring to your question about my ideals or values, respecting distribution of benefit from land usage?

    I’m referring to this one:

    ideal that land is natural and should benefit everyone equally.

    Do you disagree with this?

    I have framed the conversation around my skepticism that Georgism meaningfully contributes to leftism or functions as a leftist tendency

    The goal of leftism is to create a better, more progressive society. With that means that the “end goal” of the state must be determined, which means the income, whether monetary/resource based/etc must be determined as well.

    You can’t have a state that doesn’t have a defined input/output. So if you want to meaningfully contribute to an ideal leftist society/government, one such meaningful contribution is solving the government’s input/output problem.

    Taxing land is one such solution to this problem.

    including lands, being utilized socially and also toward benefit that is private.

    Under georgism, all land gets taxed regardless of who owns the land, how they own the land, whether it is private or personal, and regardless of whether or not private property still exists.



  • Georgism tends not to augment leftist theory or objectives

    And like I already said, not every policy is implemented to solve every problem.

    Georgians want landlords and business owners to be taxed such that …

    And this is a sweeping generalization. Not all georgians agree on every aspect of georgism. There are georgians that want to keep a pure “free market” capitalism, there are those that want a mixed economy, and those that want socialism or communism in addition to georgism.

    It’s not a one size fits all camp.

    ideal that land is natural and should benefit everyone equally.

    Do you disagree with this?

    Leftists want to abolish profit

    This is also just a sweeping generalization. Just as with georgism, leftism isn’t something that can be defined by a simplified, sweeping generalization. Leftists are a diverse group.

    You’re not talking about policy, which is where the actual conversation is at.


  • Not every policy is implemented to solve every problem. So listing all the things georgism doesn’t solve is a moot point.

    No matter what, the state needs a source of income. And georgism is to my knowledge the least bad of all options, all of which are bad.

    The rules on who can own what land for what purpose, private or personal is independent of the rules on how tax is collected.



  • It’s not even just that people don’t know about the green party, it’s that we are stuck with a voting system that is inherently biased against 3rd parties being viable.

    If we can switch to a better voting system like STAR or approval, it would be far better for the green party.

    And the existing parties would have to compete for once, which would go a long way towards making them not dumpster fires.





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    At least with a knife, you can’t mow down a room full of people. Here in the U.S. dozens of people can be killed in a short time by a single person due to guns. We give them out like candy.

    Both access to guns (force multiplier) and the underlying issue (poverty, lack of social mobility, etc) need to be addressed.