

Yeah I did, I watched the talk and read the article before I posted. I understand that the article calls out several times “email is fine actually”, but I’m not under any delusions that Delta Chat is using “traditional email”, which is what the article spends the most time debunking. The article’s points on stubbornly using email technology were “countries have a harder time blocking it” (which I mainly focused on) and “email servers are battle-tested”. I’m not counting the second point as worth talking about since it’s kind of dumb to imply that there’s no possible way to have more efficient communication relays than pre-existing email servers, and they’re already modifying those email servers to fit their own purposes anyway so that removes the “battle-tested” perk.
















It makes sense to want to use Delta Chat because of the UX right now, but I’m just assuming the UX on all of these projects is bad in some way, and I’m assuming there are improvements to be made in other regards as well (Delta Chat is only recently trying to land Perfect Forward Secrecy, for example). I’m more concerned with looking at the future trajectories of these projects, as someone who has had to convert their friend group between solutions multiple times and is sick of projects that don’t go anywhere or will get superseded by projects with better designs.
With that in mind, I’m mainly looking at the fundamentals of the implementation and if, given enough community support/money, all the UX issues could be solved eventually. Even projects like Matrix, which sucks for a few big reasons right now, could still be mostly fixed up with enough effort. My suspicion is that “fixing up” Delta Chat would realistically mean that they should move away from emails as part of their stack, unless there is some actual value-add from keeping it.
(For the record my friends and I are using Signal currently. I played around with SimpleX a long time ago but found the UX lacking for normies.)