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  • So I’ll mention this first as it feels fairly relevant, but the article talks about how successful Game of Thrones was, though I’m not sure I’d attribute that success to the fact it had sex scenes.

    As it is, Game of Thrones is a fantasy with lots of dramatic elements to it, and seemingly good writing for the most part, until whatever happened towards the end that ruined that for a lot of people. If they wanted sex to be part of the story, they could do so without ever really showing it on screen, but still being significant and more than just mentioned to have happened.

    It could be implied through another character who found some indication of it after, or if no signs of it could be found, through the characters involved themselves, but just before or after it was done. And by doing that, you get the information of how the characters feel about it by how they react and respond, without just blatantly having all the complications of a sex scene included.

    To me, showing a sex scene feels like the opposite of the phrase “show, don’t tell”, despite it quite literally being showing. It’s just showing that it happened, almost like it’s “telling” us directly that it did, rather than “showing” that it happened through interactions with the characters or environment before or after, which opens up so many more story and writing opportunities than just “telling” us it happened by just showing the sex that looks mostly like every other sex that has ever happened.

    And the times a direct sex scene is actually good for the writing and story? Not everyone might understand what’s being communicated with the sex scene, either because they’d rather not see sex in the first place, or because the body language and other tells are more subtle than what you can accomplish without sex in the first place.

    So back to my original mentioned point, the success of Game of Thrones really doesn’t seem like it entirely hinges upon the fact you see characters having sex lots of times, but rather mostly the writing, with which the sex scenes can be rendered unnecessary to convey the same story, without excluding parts of the audience that don’t want to see sex in their fantasy drama for whatever reasons they might have, of which there’s many possible reasons.

    And all that without even getting into the problem of genuinely bad sex scenes that either don’t contribute anything at all to the plot or development of characters, or even pointlessly harm the actual plot and development just by being there.

    And of course, something else the article talks about that I agree with, you don’t have to have characters immediately jump to having sex from the moment they start liking each other, you can have emotional or platonic bonds that form without that, and without which it just feels significantly more meaningless. Sex isn’t some central point from which all relationships universally revolve around, and you can have characters enjoying time with each other, including in a bed together, without it consistently becoming yet another sexual moment mostly in an attempt to appeal to the viewers rather than the actual characters themselves.



  • I’m aware of that definition, but from the conversation I’ve had here with someone from Hexbear, I wouldn’t jump to quite that overgeneralization, as clearly that isn’t the universal view from there.

    I don’t entirely doubt there’s the possibility that some people there might think more like that, but it’s a group within the overall group, and seemingly one that is looked down upon by others there.

    Though bringing that up, that does give me curiosity as to how a sort of broad poll on how Russia is viewed, specifically whether with or without nuance, would go there, as it might help sort out that exact problem of if it’s a minority there that believes Russia is entirely right or not.

    The reason being for it being a sort of poll, is it would be significantly easier to put numbers or percentages to the result there, and being far more generally accessible, rather than discussions and replies that would be hard to really count accurately due to the sheer number of users.

    Of course, that might not work, but it brings the discussion to the topic of what might clear things up more, and that seems like a step in the right direction I’d think.


  • And I understand what you mean, it’s just the years of sticking to grammatical rules to be “correct” when they feel so unnatural to how I actually hold conversations has had its effects on me.

    Sure, in school I never got treated differently for having Autism/ADHD, but that was because it never became apparent, and my parents never believed I had either, because I was “too intelligent for that”, despite the signs throughout my life, including my older sister and many of my friends being able to tell just from being around me.

    And so after all that, I’ve started gradually opening up, and writing how I would speak, even if it’s not “correct” as that learned grammar would want it to be. And so the apology is somewhat of a holding point to that grammatical formality I’m leaving behind.

    Even half the periods I’ve typed here are still restraining myself from letting my “voice” keep going without pause, as I’ve gotten it into my head from those years that it’s seen as “annoying” or some other negative attribute to do so.


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    Yeah, I generally agree with your stance on it, which is a little bit of a change from previously, but more so understanding better what was already there.

    My main problem with their instance is the sub-group of more antagonistic and condescending users, which have an overlap with the ones posting what you’ve described as “Kremlin propaganda”.

    Although said propaganda isn’t quite exclusive to Russia, there’s also Chinese propaganda stuff there too from what I can understand, which again has that same sort of overlap in users, if not the same users as the Russian propaganda sources.

    Also, some of the culture of the instance is a bit off-putting, namely the allusions of sorts to pigs, but that could just be my Autism causing me to feel more offended by that than normal.

    As it is, politically speaking, I’m not fond of Capitalism, I’m aware of the general historical problems of authoritarianism that have taken over what attempts at communism have been tried, and so I can agree with a decent amount of the views taken there.

    But the pro-Russian stuff that shows up there is absolutely wild to me; a country so actively hostile to LGBTQIA+, and yet it’s getting support from people in an instance that is inclusive to that same persecuted group? The same country that doesn’t even appeal to their ideals of leftism and/or communism in modern day? And the same country that blatantly commits to violations of human rights? It doesn’t make any logical sense.

    So to your point, it’s a moderation issue mainly, and an issue that actually is being addressed, so nicely done to the admins/moderators there for that, and well done to you for bringing that to attention here as well.

    And hopefully as you’ve said, once people start getting used to the rules and connection to other instances, said antagonism, condescension, and trolling will reduce with time.

    And apologies for the absolutely flowing sentences that go on for way longer than normal, I blame the Autism/ADHD, as it’s closer to how I actually speak vocally. I try to space it out so it’s more readable, and less of a wall of connected language that blurs together, especially for those who might have dyslexia.