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“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

  • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
    1326·
    10 months ago

    To be honest maybe America does deserve Trump. Biden is no where near as bad as Trump but maybe when your countries leadership boils down to choosing one keeping the status quo while genociding or the other being a fascists while genociding you don’t really deserve anything good.

    • mzesumzira@leminal.spaceEnglish
      104·
      10 months ago

      I’m sorry, are you saying that millions of people, including children, all deserve to suffer because their establishment sucks?

      • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
        42·
        10 months ago

        We elect our establishment. We don’t live in a dictatorship. You can’t argue that we collectively aren’t somewhat responsible for who we put in office.

        • mzesumzira@leminal.spaceEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          We are, to a point. US election system is particularly bad in representation, what with gerrymandering and voters disenfranchising, but even if it wasn’t it’s callous to say people deserve to suffer because they don’t understand what they’re voting for.

          You’re speaking from a position of privilege.

          • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
            1·
            10 months ago

            it’s callous to say people deserve to suffer because they don’t understand what they’re voting for.

            How? Will live in age were information is more freely available than in any other part of history. It’s your responsibility to be an informed voter. Ignorance isn’t an excuse to give your vote away.

            You’re speaking from a position of privilege.

            As Americans we all are. We don’t live in a monarchy or a military dictatorship. Everyone is screaming about how important this election is for democracy but democracy is how we got here. Every person who instituted policies that encouraged voter disenfranchising and gerrymandering was voted in. Those who decided not to challenge these policies and kept the status quo were voted in. Facism doesn’t happen overnight. In a lot of cases the populace genuinely asks for it

    • Julian@lemm.eeEnglish
      105·
      10 months ago

      Nice take, you should tell it to the women who could die if there was a nationwide abortion ban, or maybe someone in the LGBT community that Trump wants to put in camps. I’m sure they’ll love to hear that they deserve it.