• cogman@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Man, I remember laughing at Romney in his presidential run when he said Russia was over the greatest global threats. Boy was he on point.

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      9 months ago

      He was by accident. What Romney and Obama were talking about during the debate was an interview Mitt had given prior.

      In that interview he was talking about going all Reagan like with being antagonistic to Russia and Iran. His view on foreign policy was Obama should be gearing up for war. Building more boats, tanks, bombs to out spend enemies like Ronnie did. Negotiating with Iran was a waste of time. Let’s just bomb people kinda stuff.

      Which was stupid. It was usual tough guy GOP foreign policy junk. When at the time soft power was working just fine. And even the EU felt Medvedev was being a reasonable partner. Romney was even specifically trying to twist Obama’s hot mic comments to Medvedev about negotiating after the election as selling out America.

      In 2012 soft power and talking out differences was getting somewhere. Which is why Romney was roundly lambasted for acting like the US should preemptively go back to Cold War style of dealing with adversaries. That approach would have guaranteed the kind of response that has happened for different reasons.

      Additional tl;dr summary thought. Obama was already in the war time President role. Romney attempting to look tougher, staked out a ludicrous position. Including claiming the US should be spending 4% of GDP on the military.

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      9 months ago

      Even the people we don’t like are sometimes right about something.

      Trump got ridiculed for critizising Germany for being too reliant on Russian energy.

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        Trump’s mouth is both like the broken clock analogy and like the proverbial 10,000 monkeys with the typewriter.

        He also continuously parrots the last thing he heard.

        At that point he was getting presidential briefings and folders of intelligence from the 3 letter agencies when he was visiting other countries, and his top advisers about concerns he should raise with his counterpart.

        He just parroted something that put his host down publicly both because it made him look smug, because he’s a brute and a sexist and because he didn’t like her.

        The content may have been true but that’s no way to conduct international relations with a close ally.

        These concerns are raised in private, unless your intent is to torpedo the alliance - but at the same meeting he told them the us will not come to their aid if Russia attacked, so that’s what it was.

  • fsxylo@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    Ok, but Mitt was known for one thing when he ran against Obama: that he was a bullshitting flip flopper.

    He might be right but it has nothing to do with what he believes.

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    9 months ago

    More Russia is a boogeyman and pushing for endless wars, not suprising from republican/democrats.


    edit: summary added

    Short Summary

    1. Emphasize the importance of providing military weapons to Ukraine as a crucial vote for US senators.
    2. Argue that helping Ukraine defend itself is necessary to prevent Putin from invading a NATO nation and maintain America’s credibility and leadership in the world.
    3. Refute various arguments against providing aid to Ukraine, such as concerns about cost and potential repercussions.
    4. Stress that supporting Ukraine will strengthen national security, deter aggression from Russia and China, and uphold commitments to allies.
    5. Conclude by quoting a letter from the president of Poland urging US senators to ensure a peaceful future for their children by stopping Russia and leading the way.
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      9 months ago

      Oh wow, it’s you again! The guy who gets all of his talking points straight from a right wing play book!

      Man why didn’t I block you on our last interaction? Oh because I wanted to give you a chance. Yeah I’m twice bitten now. Would recommend everyone block this tool, your lemmy experience will be much better.

      • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        Liberals calling people left of Bernie Sanders right wing…

        Nice playbook tactics, friend.

        I am not afraid of talking with people that think differently than I do, I even encourage people to do that!

        It is your right to self censor your views, I wish you luck!