Hey, it’s another article about how Biden’s old.
I wondered if maybe it’d be unfair to accuse you again of posting a steady stream of anti-Biden stuff, so I looked back, and the last anti-Biden article before this one was 1 hour ago. You also posted three other articles yesterday about Biden’s verbal fuckups, among some other stuff about him.
The first “Biden fucked up, maybe his brain is getting old” article was news of course. It’s a significant story. Posting them over and over is something different.
If you wanted to post a genuinely new take on the same events, you could use this, which is one possible pro-Biden counterpoint.
Nah, I hate Biden so just downvote and move along. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Him and the DNC are handing Trump another presidency and y’all will just keep saying everything is fine when it’s obviously not.
Nah, I hate Biden
We’ve talked before about your theory that opposing all right-of-center candidates, even when one is running against a democracy-ending fascist, is something you think is justified and productive. I actually don’t agree with some of your criticisms of Biden, but much more to the point, I think actively propagandizing against him in this particular election is foolish and dangerous.
If you were incessantly posting articles about productive ways to push the establishment Democrats to the left, and support for the rare handful of them that actually represent the people decently well, you and I would be very much on the same page, but just relentlessly shitting on Biden is something that I feel like giving a response to.
so just downvote and move along. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I’m not obligated to stop talking because you want me to. On my side, I could tell you to not post these things and move along, but, here we are.
A decent solution is that you could block me, so you won’t be bothered by my comments, but I get to say my piece and everyone else can still see them as a counterpoint. Everyone’s happy then, right?
Him and the DNC are handing Trump another presidency
You keep pivoting to this “oh isn’t it a shame that Trump’s doing well, I’m just a humble concerned citizen” stance, while actively doing what little you can in this little corner of the world to help Trump do better. Like I said, if you were actively promoting leftist ideals in government, it’d be a whole different conversation.
The DNC’s not great. Biden’s accomplishments though, as compared with a standard Democrat, are actually pretty significant. Actually the very first places I would put the blame for Trump doing as well as he is would be (a) establishment Democrats as a whole, for turning their back on the working class ever since Jimmy Carter (b) the US news media, especially the turgidly pro-corporate part of it that you keep posting links to.
This user is not interested in good faith debates about political ideologies and injecting some actual fucking leftism into the US. They post a variety of articles, mostly to dilute the anti-Biden posts. For every 1 post about a random topic, return2ozma has 3 anti-Biden posts. They post just enough random topics to claim they aren’t a troll. Their goal is to spread just enough propaganda to discourage leftist and sway centrists on Lemmy (lol centrists on lemmy).
They post just enough random topics to claim they aren’t a troll. Their goal is to spread just enough propaganda to discourage leftist and sway centrists on Lemmy (lol centrists on lemmy).
They’re a textbook example of a concern troll. But unlike Reddit, Lemmy is too small for their M.O. to go unnoticed. It’ll be nice when they eventually tire of their tactics being called out and go back to Reddit.
They’re also showing a pretty textbook example of Never Play Defense from the alt-right playbook. I’m honestly not sure why I engaged with them for the length of time I did, but I looked back at the flow of the conversation and it was something like:
Me: This article being repeated at the frequency it is, is propaganda
They: You’re saying Biden’s going to win the election, let me attack that viewpoint
Me: Biden’s record is actually pretty good, whereas Trump is the end of the world, that seems relevant
They: You’re saying CNN’s reporting of Biden is factually wrong
Me: It’s relevant that Trump is the end of the world
They: You’re saying we should ban CNN
Actually typing it out in summary, I have no clue WTF I was thinking with continuing the conversation that long 🤣
Yes, I know. I’m partly posting for other people to read. If posting a constant stream of “don’t vote for Biden” on leftist parts of the internet has enough effectiveness for someone to prioritize it (which seems to be happening to at least some level), then conversely it must have some level of effectiveness to do the opposite. It’s what I do with my time instead of volunteering with some effective organized leftist political organization. 🙂 Why that is my priority setup, I don’t know.
I am a bit sincere in holding out hope that they’re simply a confused leftist who thinks that posting a constant stream of anti-Biden stuff is helpful in some way, but my faith in that worldview has been challenged, it’s true. It is a challenging time in US politics at present.
Sounds like Nancy Pelosi! Tell those fake dems to go back to China!
What is three times five please
Stay in school, you’ll get there eventually.
We saw this same concerted effort to erode support for Biden in the last election by fake progressives lamenting how bad he is. They were bad faith actors propping up Trump then, and this guy is no different. Glad someone’s around to call him out on his BS.
Criticism of the democratic party is not defacto support for trump. Biden is not above criticism.
Exactly this. It’s the same party loyalists that wouldn’t listen to us when we said Clinton would lose to Trump and literally told us they didn’t need us.
You and @nudding are the same person. Nice responding to yourself there.
“There’s no possible way that 2 different people can criticize dear leader”
Really starting to sound like a particular orange man’s supporters 🤔
Vote for our genocide and climate apocalypse or Trump will take away our democracy >:(
What a fucking joke.
You’re like the guy in the horror movie who says, “You want us to CLOSE the BEACH? On the FIRST DAY of tourist season? You must be joking, that’s insane.”
Yes, he really is going to make a credible effort at ending our democracy, and yes that really is much much worse than business-as-usual US foreign policy which is sometimes pretty bad. Saying it incredulously won’t make it not a big deal.
Edit: It is also relevant also that the monsters that Trump supports are much worse than the monsters Biden supports. There’s no guarantee that Trump won’t support Netanyahu (he did move the embassy to Jerusalem), but unlike Biden, he will also support Putin, Xi, Orban, Duterte, and other modern day mini-Stalins who are in a position to do quite a bit more killing than what’s happening right now in Gaza.
Meh, I don’t block anyone. Carry-on your rebuttals of the articles I post if you’d like then. Be Biden’s champion. Maybe write to CNN, NBC News, ABC News, and other liberal news orgs to tell them how they’re all wrong on the reporting they do about Biden? 🤔
Says “I’m far left”
Dares me to disgree with CNN or other “liberal news orgs”
Curiouser and curiouser
So you don’t disagree with what they’re reporting? Notice I’m simply posting articles from them 99% of the time.
I disagree with what they do and don’t present, and with the emphasis they place on different things.
To me, it’s relevant that Trump wants to end democracy in the United States and weaponize federal law enforcement against his enemies, and that he reacts with approval when his supporters want to kill his enemies. To me, if I ran a news organization, any coverage of the presidential race would be informed in some way by that context. I definitely wouldn’t inflate a maybe-has-some-legitimacy story about (this week) Biden’s age (when next week it’ll be something else) in the way that you and CNN like to do.
I think CNN, and you, are basically running stories about how Hindenburg is old and out of touch with today’s youth who want vigor and change in their politics, and how Hitler’s going to clean him up in the general election, and different mistakes that his opponents have made in the past. In that sense, yes, I would disagree with what they’re reporting.
Should we move CNN to the banned news source list like Fox News now? If they’re going to criticize the sitting president I mean…
Lol what a shit troll. Do better.
I give credit to OP for not giving up on his views. It’s not easy being down voted so much. But I also want to point out that most of his links are from “credible” sources.
Imagine if Fox said Trump was old. Or if Breitbart ran a story saying that Trump shouldn’t qualify for president because of Jan 6.
They are both old. They are both “bad.” But only one is trying to be president. The other is trying to be a dictator. What’s worst, is that Trump has brainwashed all his supporters to live in an alternate reality. Hey look, CNN said Biden is old. Yes we know, that’s not news. I remember R’s complaining about Bidens age last time around because he was/is older. Cool, time passed and now Trump is that same age/older. Not a word from those same R’s. I wouldn’t want my grandparents running the country but somehow I HAVE to choose between someone else’s grandpa for president.
Yes they both suck but voting for the lesser evil does not work. If the Democratic party does not move more left or supply a more suitable candidate they will fail. Voting blue no matter who will just cause the Democratic party to move further and further right as far as they can because further right policies benefit the people that run the Democratic party and it’s sponsors.
OP is not someone bashing Biden so trump wins, they’re criticizing Biden because they know he’s part of a much greater problem
Not related but relevant, Google used to have the motto of “don’t be evil.” Then money got involved, so they dropped the motto.
You’re right and it sucks. There is no democracy, only the illusion of it. Maybe that’s why they call it political theater.
OP is just getting some cheap laughs. They just wanna get people riled up but I just wanna relax. Sorry but adulting is hard enough without the fear media diet prevalent in right wing media, and creeping in to left wing media.
Thanks. I don’t care about votes, there’s no karma here so it doesn’t matter. I came over from Reddit where I had nearly 2 million karma. https://www.reddit.com/u/return2ozma
Used to have 65k followers on Twitter before I deleted my account because of Elon. I’ve dealt with the “you’re a Russian bot”, “you’re a Trumper”, “you’re ____” whatever they’re mad at this week since 2015 election cycle. I’ll continue to shit on Biden because in my eyes, the reason things are shit right now. Do I want Trump to win? No. F Trump. Is it my fault if Biden loses? No. It’s the candidates job to earn voter trust and the votes. If one person on obscure Lemmy can “take down the president” then he was extremely flawed already.
Cool story, bro.
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I wouldn’t admit to half that shjt, it just shows how terminally online you are.
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Literally no one believes your not a right wing shill. So why waste the effort claiming your not?
Yup. Check their comment history…. Definitely a shill.
Believe what you want. I know who I am. Good luck
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then I don’t care if it “knows” it’s a giraffe, I’m still going to call it a duck.
Ignorance
u a baller
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The fact that Biden delivered his remarks on Thursday night shows that his team now recognizes the president has a significant liability in this area but his performance also suggests that he’s yet to fully work out how to put voters at ease.
The ex-president — despite a few recent glaring gaffes himself — notably mixing up his GOP rival Nikki Haley with ex-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — has not had the same scrutiny over age even though he’d be into his 80s by the end of his own second term if he wins in November.
But Trump’s manic energy tends to dampen such questions among his supporters, although there are arguably great red flags about his fitness for office raised by his four looming criminal trials and his open autocratic tendencies and vows to use a second term to enact personal “retribution” against his political enemies.
The facts show that there are huge differences in the cases of Biden and Trump — even if the nuance will be blurred in the heat of a campaign as GOP leaders complain of double standards in the justice system.
In private, the findings touched off a furious response from Biden, with the president angrily and profanely asking how anyone could believe he would forget the day his son died, CNN’s Kevin Liptak reported.
This also reflects the sometimes warped reality of politics in the age of Trump and an unprecedented election between two elderly likely opponents in November, each of whom have served an Oval Office term and have defied the efforts of a younger generation to succeed them.
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