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    I think we have different definitions of irresponsible or entitled behavior if you think giving the cat what it wants or otherwise doing whatever our selfish uninformed ancestors did is the correct option.

    You should deprive your invasive manmade predator the option to kill local wildlife for sport because the local ecosystem takes irreparable damage every time a species goes extinct due to human incompetence. Cats naturally belonged to a small region of northern Africa and the Mediterranean before humans spread them across the entire earth and let their population boom to hundreds of millions.

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        Yeah, actually, that’s accurate. Cats generally stick to a small territory, lots of studies show this behavior to be consistent. The spread of domestic cats has always been understood to coalesce with the spread of human agriculture.

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        Ah yes, those damned educated people making choices that are beneficial to themselves and others. NEEEEEEERRRRRRRDDDSSSSS~!!!

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          after finding it quite surprising that folks here feel so strongly about forcing such a depressing life on highly independent creatures, I decided to look for the evidence myself.

          sure enough, it’s not as clear as you all think. one of the problems with the research is that it is incorrectly applied to all environments without merit. and the biggest issue of all is that most of the problem is caused by feral cats.

          so no, your absolute position that all cats must be indoors only is not fully supported by evidence. furthermore it is alarming how quick people are to impose their beliefs on other creatures with only a small amount of reason.

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            If you don’t enforce indoor only cats with high precision then feral cats exist everywhere as a result.

            Literally no environment benefits from thousands of fucking cats.

            You will look for any excuse to avoid the guilt of our failures as a species.

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              owning pets isn’t about maximizing environmental benefits. your own existence is a much larger problem for that but no one is telling you to live your entire life in a boring box because we have too many humans. this hill is not important enough to warrant all you folks dying on it.

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                If some people can’t minimize harm to the environment (and as a result, harm done to countless other people) then those people need their rights restricted. That’s the fundamental nature of laws: if you fuck it up for the rest of us then we’re going to have to step in.

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                  10 months ago

                  which apparently doesn’t extend to harming cats by way of imprisonment.

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          10 months ago

          Tbf right or wrong the way you come across makes you sound like a dick. Though it’s probably the autism

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            Nah I’m just a consequentialist, we all kind of have that “your feelings do not deter me” vibe.