• thantik@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’d much rather that we do nothing, let it proliferate to the point where nobody trusts nudes at all any more.

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        10 months ago

        You really need healthier relationships in your life I think; my wife would have no reason to do such a thing.

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        10 months ago

        That’s perfect. It should be legal. Making pornography of someone illegal is just a different scale of grey from say…making drawing muhammad illegal, etc.

        I can already hire an artist to make me some porn of …I dunno…Obama or something. Why should that be illegal just because someone does it with AI instead?

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            10 months ago

            Hate to break it to you, this is already legal. “Non Consensual Porn” only applies to photographs. Nobody should have to consent to everything like that.

            If I draw you standing under the eiffel tower, fully clothed - the legality shouldn’t change just because you don’t LIKE what’s being drawn.

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              10 months ago

              I’m aware it’s already legal, hence why action should be taken. plus videos are just a bunch of photos stitched together so I don’t see your point of it only applying to photos.

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                Because it being nude/etc is the only thing that is different from people just simply drawing others in art.

                Just because you don’t like pornography, shouldn’t change the legality of it. It’s prudism and puritanism at its finest.

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                  10 months ago

                  it’s not porn in general that should be illegal. ONLY pornography where the person has not explicitly said they would like to be in it. such as deepfake porn, or drawn where the person has also not said they would like to be in it.

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                    10 months ago

                    If I draw a nude stick figure with two perfect circle tits and say its Taylor Swift, would I have broken the law?

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              Nobody should have to consent to everything like that

              I’m sorry but holy fuck that is just morally bankrupt.

              Someone should have the ABSOLUTE right to control any distribution of their image when of a sexual nature that they didn’t actively consent to being out there

              Anything less is the facilitation of the culture of sexual abuse that lets the fappening or age of consent countdown clocks happen

              Drawing a picture of someone under the eifel tower is a wildly different act than drawing them in the nude without them knowing and agreeing with full knowledge of what you plan to do with that nude piece.

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                I’m wondering if the degree of believability of the image has, or should have any bearing on the answer here. Like, if a third party who was unaware of the image’s provenance came across it, might they be likely to believe the image is authentic or authorized?

                For another angle, we allow protections on the usage of fictional characters/their images. Is it so wild to think that a real person might be worthy of the same protections?

                Ultimately, people are going to be privately freaky how they’re gonna be privately freaky. It mostly only ever becomes a problem when it stops being private. I shouldn’t have to see that a bunch of strangers made porn to look like me, and neither should Taylor. And mine are unlikely to make it into tabloids.

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                  10 months ago

                  From https://www.owe.com/resources/legalities/7-issues-regarding-use-someones-likeness/

                  A. The short answer is no. Individuals do not have an absolute ownership right in their names or likenesses. But the law does give individuals certain rights of “privacy” and “publicity” which provide limited rights to control how your name, likeness, or other identifying information is used under certain circumstances.

                  From that page, it actually looks like there is a very specific criteria for this - and Taylor Swift HERSELF is protected because she is a celebrity.

                  However, there are still a lot of gotchas. So instead of making the product/art itself illegal, using it as harassment should be what’s illegal. Attaching someone’s name to it in an attempt to defame them is what’s already illegal here.

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            10 months ago

            Having an image exist somewhere of them isn’t the sort of thing a person should have to consent to.

            Consent is for things that affect that person.