• CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Man, that’s crazy. Almost as crazy as stabbing Elizabeth Sennett to death in her home with fireplace pokers for $1000, then living another ~35 years on the taxpayer dime, and finally being executed for murdering a woman 36 years ago. ¯\(°_o)/¯

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      10 months ago

      An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. How does killing him improve the world, that keeping him locked up wouldn’t?

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        10 months ago

        Your platitude is bullshit. Eye for an eye has always been a deterrent for most. Gotta kill the rest. Like u said. U can’t let them out. Why kill him? Cuz that’s the definition of justice when he killed someone.

        How is him sitting in prison justice? It’s not.

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          10 months ago

          That is your definition of justice. I personally believe that a murder in response to a murder just makes two murders. I don’t see justice in that.

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            10 months ago

            No, I’m talking about absolute justice. Your version is just a degree from letting them off Scott free. If the deterrent for death isn’t death then why punish them at all?

            I don’t think people with your reasoning realize that you’re giving the murder what they want. Literally no one wants to die but ppl can do life in prison and laugh about all the people they killed and even profit or be glorified.

            That’s your idea of justice in this case and it’s a slap on the face to families who have lost loved ones.
            As far as I’m concerned you should look at it like every killer that gets out and kills again is on the shoulders of people like you.

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              10 months ago

              My friend, if death is the punishment for a single murder, what’s stopping them from killing 2 people? 3? 4? 10?

              When you dole out a “this is the worst we can do to you” punishment, there’s no reason to stop. This concept actually increases the chances of crime, because “fuck it, I’m gonna die anyway.”

              It’s also extremely short sighted. For every ~9 inmates found guilty and sentenced to death, 1 is exonerated. And that isn’t even mentioning the number of people who have been executed who were proven innocent after the fact.

              How about we just make the chances of killing an innocent person 0% by no longer executing people?

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        10 months ago

        According to this, as of 2015, the cost to incarcerate a man for 1 year in Alabama was $14,780.

        As we all know, costs have skyrocketed since 2015, but let’s be ultra, ultra generous & say incarceration costs were a flat $10K/yr until 2014. 25 years at $10K/yr, $250K.

        Let’s pretend inflation somehow never happened, 2015 - 2023, 9 years at $14,780. $133,020.

        $133,020 + $250,000 = $383,020.

        Inmate at one time requested firing squad, and death is death, so let’s say the bullet cost $2. You allocate an additional $4,998 for staff to perform firing squad duties, party balloons, party hats, and confetti. $5K & 5 mins…vs. 35 years & $383K++++, only to end with a more expensive & contrived execution style, more suffering, and the exact same end result. Death is death.

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          10 months ago

          So about a million dollars, or 5 times cheaper than the median cost of the death penalty.

          The median cost of a death penalty is $1,250,000

          Even without your estimating and looking up the actual numbers — actual cost of lifetime incarceration is 800k, so in real life it’s only twice as expensive to execute someone. Also the equivalent of about 3-4 years salary of a corporate Director or VP

          And that’s not even considering that incarceration has fringe benefits too. Through study, analysis, therapy and statistics we can learn how to prevent tragedy in future — not the case with execution.