• nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 months ago

    according to those who have chronic pain and have used both, heroin is a much more reliable and safer to dose pain management tool than fentanyl. a lot of the dangers come from the illegality like dealers cutting with toxic chemicals to maximize profit and stigma keeping users alone and in the dark away from doctor supervision and advise.

    of course it has plenty of abuse, but so does everything. the abuse could be much better managed if it weren’t a back alley secret joy and were instead a socially accepted and legal pain medication with education on the risk and standards for purity.

    btw everyone should get some narcan, you could save a life some day.

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      10 months ago

      The danger comes from the fact that you literally become instantly addicted if you ever try it, the only reason it’s considered safer is because it doesn’t kill you as quickly, but it’s fucking heroin.

      The medical acceptance it’s entitled to is accepting that any use of it is an addictive disorder case which needs to be clinically treated same as addiction to alcohol.

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        10 months ago

        the only reason it’s considered safer is because it doesn’t kill you as quickly

        Kind of seems like a huge factor in determining the safety of strong painkillers!

        Drug abuse prevention also isn’t served by hyperbole like ‘you will literally become instantly addicted if you try it even once.’ That doesn’t mean it’s harmless or that you can’t get addicted on the first try, but there is no such thing as a substance that instantly makes everyone an addict on the first exposure.

        Addiction is a complex interaction of mental health, genetic predisposition, and environmental factors, and to add a layer of complexity on top of that physical dependence and addiction are used interchangeably by many but are distinct.

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          10 months ago

          That’s not hyperbole, it literally instantly induces addiction, that complex mental chemistry is capable of going off instantly and heroin is one of the known agents capable of doing so.

          Stop trying to make heroin an ok thing, it ruins lives even in the safest circumstances and even the “safe” stuff leaves everyone it comes into contact with as a shell of their former selves.

          You’re trying to make space for drinking battery acid as a pain killer. That’s the kind of destruction of your life and body that you’re attempting to say is fine and good and ok.

          Not to mention how opioids as an accepted painkiller in of itself is at this point entirely a product of capitalist meddling in medical science on the behalf of pharmacorps. It is widely known that the opioid epidemic has its roots in ad lobbying doctors into prescribing opioids regardless of if they were ever deemed necessary or safe for the circumstances.

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            10 months ago

            Can you provide evidence that heroin instantly turns everyone into an addict the first time they are exposed to it, in the form of peer reviewed scientific literature?

            Stop trying to make heroin an ok thing

            Reread my comment or go have that argument with someone that is making it, because I’m not going to.