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    10 months ago

    The worst part of this comic is that philosophy bro is clearly not even very good at his field, since there’s a much better Cartesian parallel to be made here (and I’m not even a philosopher).

    “I think, therefore I am” is actually leaving out (imo) the most important part of Descartes’s argument. He was trying to find literally anything that he could know without a doubt was true. The problem is, that’s really hard, as our existence-troubled shopper has discovered. Descartes could doubt the existence of God, he could doubt the existence of goodness, of truth. All of these things might not actually exist. Descartes could even doubt his own existence.

    In fact, literally the only thing Descartes could conclude without a doubt was true was the fact that he was doubting at all. So, since that’s the only thing he could be sure of, that’s what he built his argument for rationalism upon.

    This perfectly mirrors the existential crisis the so-called philosopher comes upon, but instead of starting the shopper right where Descartes started, he instead just provides what must seem like almost a non sequitur in context, since if the man is currently doubting his existence, he can also doubt that he’s thinking. What he cannot doubt, is that he is in fact doubting.

    I doubt. Therefore, I think. I think, therefore I am.”

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      10 months ago

      In a sea of garbage, this is actually one of the most interesting things I’ve read on here. Thanks mate.

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      Yeah I was gonna make a similar argument.

      The proof of one’s existence is only that they percieve it enough to question it. Unfortunately, all of our sensory data is unreliable proof and therefor we cannot prove there is anything other than our own conciousness. Maybe you’re a mad god trapped in an eternal nightmare of your own design, have fun with that concept.

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    People made this joke about my art degree (textiles) but I’ve had a career for 25 years and my mortgage is about to be paid off in April. So, eat a dick 🫳🎤

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      I’m happy for you, but real question: would you recommend this degree to aspiring students? Would you say you’re the exception or do people have the wrong perception about a career in art?

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        Absolutely I recommend it. It teaches analytical and critical thinking and gives you space to develop physical skills. It may not lead to a career as a fine artist but it absolutely has transferable skills. I didn’t need to go to art school to become an upholsterer/marine fabricator but I draw on my education daily. I’m a far better designer for the experience.

        Keep in mind, I’m not talking about an art history degree.

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      What do you mean? Of course cats talk. They tell me to do all kinds of things, but I try to ignore them, sometimes, maybe . . . .

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    Descartes was not right, most people do not think and yet they exist unfortunately.

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      Actually the negation of that implication would be: “I think, and I don’t exist”, and not “I don’t think, therefore I don’t exist”.

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    According to the thought experiment of Schrödinger’s cat, the animal can’t talk but also can speak.

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    I saw a youtube title calling philosophers a bunch of white guys jerking each other off and I have never heard a more apt description since. Hell, even legendary philosopher Karl Marx made a fuck ton of mistakes until he actually went out in the real world and put his ideas to test; what hope do you think someone who literally sits around thinking about pointless “what-ifs” with them and their debate bros has?

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      Buddha, Confucius, Jesus: were nonwhite and such notable philosophers they each founded a religion based on their teachings

      You: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that

      The closest thing white people have to anything on the level of those three is Alistair Crowley, and you’ve probably never heard of him.

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    We calling philosophy a science now? And the other comment is bringing it even further unrelated into art degrees…

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      Philosophy and science have historically always been intertwined. Many, MANY famous scientists were also philosophers, going all the way back to ancient times.

      Without philosophy we literally would not have the scientific method.

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      Philosophy isn’t a science. Science is a philosophy. What do you think PhD stands for?

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      Philosophy is the soil from which science has always sprouted. Without philosophy, much of modern society would not come about.