A defendant who was captured in courtroom video leaping over a judge’s bench and attacking her, touching off a bloody brawl, is scheduled to appear before her again Monday morning.

In his Jan. 3 appearance before Clark County District Court Judge Mary Kay Holthus, Deobra Redden, who was facing prison time for a felony battery charge stemming from a baseball bat attack last year, tried to convince the judge that he was turning around his violent past.

Redden asked for leniency while describing himself as “a person who never stops trying to do the right thing no matter how hard it is.”

But when it became clear Holthus was going to sentence him to prison time, and as the court marshal moved to handcuff and take him into custody, Redden yelled expletives and charged forward. People in the courtroom audience, including his foster mother, began to scream.

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    Not necessarily. If they actually were reformed and the judge wasn’t hearing it, the sentencing wasn’t correct.

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        You understand though, he was angry in that situation that he was going to face consequences, it’s totally different.

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              Good thing we all decided we were too sensitive for the ol’ /s and that this kind of misunderstanding never happens

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                If you need a /s to realize that was sarcasm you don’t have the reading comprehension/social skills to be on the internet by yourself anyway.

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                  I had that attitude until I stumbled on people who clearly must live in upside-down world. The “/s” is essential for a site where that relies on text as the medium and where people will have no prior knowledge of the writer.

                  Sarcasm in the real world can usually be understood through body language and tone. We don’t have that here.

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                  Lol talking about social skills while not knowing that sarcasm is generally conveyed with changes and tone and other markers that aren’t possible with text…

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                    I picked up on that being sarcasm just fine. The context of the comment was plenty to assume that.

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                  Poe’s law is an adage of internet culture which says that, without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

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      From the article:

      Redden’s criminal record is marked by mostly violent offenses and includes prior convictions for three felonies and nine misdemeanors, District Attorney Steve Wolfson said. “He’s been violent his entire adult life,” Wolfson said. Redden, 30, had tried to convince the judge otherwise Wednesday.

      I’m not saying he can’t turn his life around, but I’d venture to say he hasn’t been reformed yet. Most functional citizens know by 30 that you can’t assault a judge.

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        I mean I’ll say he can’t turn his life around. Multiple violent offenses is the entire point of jail. People like that should be permanently removed from society.

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          No. Bad. rolls up newspaper

          That isn’t the point of jail. Anyone can turn their life around. Jesus dude.

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            No, not everyone can. Some people are irredeemable, and some crimes are unforgivable and should result in permanent removal from society regardless of reformation.

            This is a dude that has multiple convictions for increasingly escalating violent assaults. This most recent one was for beating someone nearly to death with a baseball bat.

            How many chances should he get to kill someone?

            Fucking idiots will bend over backwards to defend violent scumbags before defending the innocent people these fucks prey on.

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              If I understand you correctl,y people can change, like you said: he’s growing more violent.

              So they only can get worse? The only path for a human is into darkness? That’s still change, bud. And you’re silly if once you acknowledge change that it’s only one direction.

              Aside from that, the point of jails is to punish and ideally reform people so they become better. So the original premise is flawed from the start, it was never about “locking them away for good”, it was always deterrent and to prevent them from doing it again.

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                You didn’t say change. You said turn their life around. Don’t change your words now, bud. To which I said, no not everyone can turn their life around. Some people are only capable of getting worse.

                And sure that’s the point of the criminal justice system, ideally.

                The point of jail/prison itself is to keep offenders segregated from society while that happens, with security levels matching the severity and risk of the offender. For those that cannot be reformed or have committed unforgivable crimes, the point is to permanently segregate them from society to prevent them from further harming it.

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                  To turn someone’s life around is to change for the better. I also quoted you with that phrase.

                  If you’re going to argue semantics, invest in a thesaurus. Also, if youre going to play the pedantic card, don’t use colloquialisms.

                  I’d suggest you do some reading on the histories of criminal punishments and how society has evolved around them.

                  I’d also like to point out how you ignored what I said: you acknowledge he has changed, but is only capable of changing in one direction. Which is a silly thought if you’ve ever met a person who has made mistakes. Maybe you haven’t.

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                    My god you really have no reading comprehension do you? Or you just don’t know how to have a good faith conversation.

                    YOU started with the colloquialism. That was entirely you. I never used it other than responding to YOUR use of it.

                    I know what it means, and I am arguing that SOME people are NOT capable of changing for the better. SOME people only change for the worst.

                    Violent crimes are also not “making a mistake”, ffs. They are a conscious act to decide to severely harm another person. In this dudes case he consciously made the decision to try to end another person’s life by violently beating them with a baseball bat. After having repeated other offenses of violently attacking others and being given chances to reform.

                    And even then he was given incredible leniency by having the charge dropped from assault with a deadly weapon to attempted assault causing substantial bodily harm.

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        the only part i disagree with is “entire adult life”

        at 30 dude hasn’t had an entire adult life yet so that seems prejudicial

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      The lengths some people go to defend criminals is worrying. Dude proved he hasn’t reformed by leaping across the bench and attacking the judge sentencing him, after pleading his case talking about how he is reformed, and you’re still trying to defend him.

      Perhaps consider the impact this clearly unreformed criminal will have on the impact of society and perhaps his other future victims.

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        FWIW, I’m not defending him at all, I’m saying he hasn’t been reformed.

        I’m saying he needs a lot more work to get there.