We're allowing non-IRL loli/shota - Lemmy NSFW
lemmynsfw.com
When I opened this site 5 days ago, I could not have guessed that I would post such a post. But here we are. As you know, we did a poll on this topic here [https://lemmynsfw.com/post/26029]. Around 40% of people said to block, the rest said to not to. In such cases, we wanted to make the poll, even though it doesn’t matter. Right now, I’m still currently agreeing with @bobbiguy2122 [https://lemmynsfw.com/u/bobbiguy2122] here [https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/82152]. We are going to let community moderators handle the situation in within limits. So it’s going to be users choice to subscribe to that community or creating new one with his own rules. #### Why not completely block it If we are going to split, there is so many fractions as well. As someone who only likes women and plain porn, I don’t want to ban tentacle, futanari or gay stuff. Because even though they are kinky, they are also a pleasure. Being attracted to petite teens is just like these pleasures, and the vast majority actually like it. I think we should not ban this pleasure just because it is in a dangerous area. #### As a result First of all we will explicitly ban IRL loli images. Although we will allow non-IRL content under moderator control, tho we will control childish content independently of moderators too. We will make this distinction according to images that look and act like children. #### Defederation I see a lot of people are worried about this situation. But I don’t care. Because as you can see, beehaw, one of the largest instances, blocked the other 2 largest instances. This situation is inevitable in NSFW only instances like us. As a result, you must have one main account, where you can access all instances, and one NSFW account, where you can only access NSFW content. For example, I don’t plan to block any instances on this instance, except in extreme cases.

SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the “Loli” announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I’m taking it as a backtrack, but it’s still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven’t seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of “whoops bad English” like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

  • Lenguador@kbin.social
    7·
    2 years ago

    I had to go find the thread being referenced, it’s here for anyone else who hasn’t seen it: https://kbin.social/m/lemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com/t/42348

    I took the time to post my own thoughts in the thread, which I’ve reproduced here:

    It seems a lot of people have very strong negative reactions to anything which is too close to children in pornography. I don't think that's an especially bad thing, but in my mind the only reason to be against minors in pornography is to protect those same minors from harm.

As an analogy, I find scat porn disgusting. But that doesn't mean it should be banned, as long as all parties are able to consent and no harm is done.

When it comes to non-child-coded drawings (though with childish proportions), I don't see the harm or lack of consent. And if that is the case, it doesn't matter what my personal feelings are about the content, it shouldn't be banned.
    • nude@kbin.socialOP
      3·
      2 years ago

      Again, not here to discuss the nuance of drawn pictures of naked kids.
      Not trying to shut down the instance.

      I don’t care.

      I’m just warning people who don’t like that shit, that is most people, that the instance owner is cool with that content so if you aren’t into it then probably look elsewhere.
      A secondary point was asking if there are any alternatives yet.
      I know there will be, I’m just wondering if there is

        • nude@kbin.socialOP
          2·
          2 years ago

          The post title, direct quote

          We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content

            • nude@kbin.socialOP
              2·
              2 years ago

              No I did, and they said

              We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content

              Then they go on to say there is a difference between teen and child, and then backtrack and say “noooo we banned loli”, after posting a thread titled

              We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content

              edit:
              And now the title of the post is

              We’re (not) allowing non-IRL underage looking content

              • DarkThoughts@kbin.social
                41·
                2 years ago

                No, it says, and I quote the whole thing for you as you apparently lack reading comprehension, since your quote is literally not part of it:

                I have so much respect for @yay but i can’t believe how poorly he wrote the update message, lol.

                Here is what’s happening;

                • loli/shota are BANNED and not okay in any way.
                • IRL kids are BANNED OBVIOUSLY because no shit.
                • characters who are petite/young-looking but not obviously underage are ALLOWED because as an instance the votes decided that banning all of it was destructive, and differentiating between them can be impossible.

                The line will continue to be up to the admins discretion, though we always appreciate input. And beyond this, individual communities can decide whether they want to outright ban all flat-chested etc. porn to be safe.

                Any other clarifications necessary, just ask below. Thanks for reading. ~Restful

                • nude@kbin.socialOP
                  1·
                  2 years ago

                  Yes, the backtrack, which was posted after my initial thread, which is a 180 on what was originally posted, but also goes on to say that its impossible to differentiate if its flat chested content.

                  All this could have been solved by saying “18+ only”, but instead they want to dance the pedo line and come up with their own rules based on breast size and “anime skin tones” and all this other nonsense.

                  This thread isnt missleading, I posted what I saw. Then they backtracked almost. If people didnt post about it and say they were leaving there wouldnt have been a backtrack.