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But even so, I mean, all of this is really irrelevant whether Julian’s a journalist or not. The question is, is Julian accused of journalism? And he is. It is the activity that has been criminalized. Not whether he falls into a category or not. It’s the category of the activity that is being criminalized. Receiving, obtaining, and communicating information to the public.
If you don’t want to give him the benefit of the doubt, don’t. Just read the indictment, take note of the wording of the charges and whenever you see his name, substitute it by “publisher”. Then think about the implications for National Security reporting if a publisher from another country is extradited to a country he has barely ever even visited.