Hello, with the spicy beehaw drama I was wondering, would it be possible to selfhost a lemmy instance literally just for yourself and no one else to like, circumvent any defederation shenanigans? As all instances federate per default, this should work right?
Allthough, as far as my understanding of how federation works is that I would need to manually subscribe to every community on every instance that I’m interested in as federation only syncs communities that have at least one subscriber on the hosting instance, correct?
Or is there a way to subscribe to EVERYTHING?
Other than that is there any obvious downside to doing that?
Other than that is there any obvious downside to doing that?
You must be able to administrate and pay for a server.
Apart from that, it would not be nice to participate in the network and use the computing capacity of others, but not bring any infrastructure into the network yourself (by registration lock).It’s not really all that difficult to spin up your own “server”. Sure, desktop hardware isn’t exactly targeted towards running a web server, but for a purpose like your own Lemmy/federation, I’d imagine just about any old hardware from the last 5 years or so oughta be fine.
When people say “instances federate by default”, they don’t mean the instances engage in active content discovery. They mean the default behaviour when someone goes to look for content that’s offsite is to connect to the remote instance.
Running a solo Lemmy or kbin instance puts all of the responsibility of content discovery on your own shoulders. You’ll need to go out and scout other instances to see what you want to follow, and then subscribe to those sources in order to keep content flowing.
I highly recommend having a secondary account that you use to subscribe to things somewhat indiscriminately so you can separate out your subscribed feed from your all feed in a meaningful way.
This is a good idea, use one account just to sub everything so syncing works and I can use “all” and “subsribed” seperatly, very good idea. Do you know if there is an easy way to “subscribe to everything”? Like a script or something?
I believe an instance can whitelist which would block all other instances and only allow ones it approves. I don’t know of one that does that yet, but I could see beehaw doing that in the future—in which case, having a solo instance would not help.
What’s happened to beehaw?
Defederation of a couple of servers. Think one was lemmy.world
Lol that’s a big yikes. Glad I never managed to make an account over at beehaw.
It’s just temporary until mod tools mature enough to deal with the trolls that were using lemmy.world’s open registration and automated registration approval to quickly evade bans and troll beehaw.
It was simply a moderation issue, the two instances in question were giving them a lot of moderation work, and lacking Mastodon’s “limit” option they decided to just defederate them until things settle down a bit, remember that this is all volunteers in their spare time, not employees of a corporation
What is the “limit” option?
Some of us are not so lucky.
I didn’t make one there because it has a weird name. Silly lol
It makes me think of when you sign up for a VPS like linode and they have a bunch of drop-in applications you can click to install. Like cpanel, wordpress etc. But you aren’t really fully running it in the same way as if it was physically a device in your home. There are some pro admins taking care of some of the details.
I feel something like that would be the middle ground for people wanting independence without having to learn such deep systems admin skills.
They defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.
Beehaw is defederating from sh.itjustwor.ks and Lemmy.ml. Personally I think it’s silly to be upset over it considering defederation is one of the selling points of Lemmy.
Beehaw is just going for a more curated experience which I think is completely fine. I’m sure once they have more moderators they’ll consider refederating anyway.
It’s definitely an interesting selling point. I’ve always said you have to take the good with the bad on social media, but having independent instances who can curate things a bit means you don’t actually have to take the bad if you don’t want. Even though the Beehaw admin themselves said this is essentially a nuke and not how they’d preferred to have handled it (Lemmy doesn’t have the tools just yet to do it any other way) it’s still interesting and unique in social media.
Beehaw is creating an identity for themselves and sticking to it, rather than being a general instance. Some people will love that, some will hate it. But ultimately it’s whats going to make Beehaw a unique place to be for those who want it without taking anything away from those who don’t. This is all still early stages for Lemmy and there are growing pains for sure, but this sort of thing, to me at least, shows the possibilities of a Federated network.
