• Faceman🇦🇺@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    43
    ·
    1 year ago

    beehaw are trying to be a perfectly moderated and “high quality” community and they are struggling to keep up with it when federated to other large instances.

    I think they might need to change their methods because it is inevitable that some crap is going to be going on in low effort posts and comments, but defederating one very large instance from other very large instances is against the whole idea the movement.

    • arkcom@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      35
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I posted this there, but since you can’t see it

      “I wonder if the type of community you’re trying to build wouldn’t be easier with a more traditional forum software like discourse. The infrastructure and moderation tools there have had much longer to mature.”

      I think they’ve picked the wrong tool for what they’re trying to do.

    • inventa@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yeah. In the explanation they say that four people are taking the load of moderation, that can’t scale. If the rest of the communities keep growing they may end up isolating themselves for not being able to adapt.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      It was inevitable, though. Hopefully we see instances segregate nicely into tiers of lawlessness rather than just chaos.

      • Faceman🇦🇺@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        1 year ago

        I can see why they need to do it, they apparently only have 4 main mods for the entire server. with the limited mod tools available at the moment that is completely impossible to manage.

        I hope they can get past this hurdle.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          15
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I’ve got to learn Rust like a madman so I can help implement mod tools. That’s honestly the main bottleneck alongside discoverability.

          Elsewhere in the thread right now there’s an open troll. On Reddit you get silenced at -100 karma. What happens on Lemmy? Anything?

          • Faceman🇦🇺@discuss.tchncs.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            As far as I know there are no automod functions currently, so until a human mod manually deletes or bans that user, it will just stay there.

            Tools will come, the code for the platform is fully open and the API well documented, so it wont be long before large communities can function fully federated with reasonable moderation.

          • Aninjanameddaryll
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            It doesn’t help that notifications are pretty nonexistent at times. You have to actively go to an instance via browser, or open jerboa to find out anything is going on. Well, I haven’t found any other way to get mod notifications, and I’ve tried a couple of times.

            So, for non admin mods to help out there, they’d have to commit to a higher degree of focus than what most people can offer.

        • iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          1 year ago

          I can see why they need to do it, they apparently only have 4 main mods for the entire server

          Why would they think that would be enough to withstand the waves from reddit? That was just a disaster waiting to happen.

          • Faceman🇦🇺@discuss.tchncs.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            1 year ago

            happened too fast for them I guess.

            once better mod tools or possibly an invite only read-only sort of solution is available they would re-open to other large instances.

            • iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              9
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              I honestly doubt they’ll open again, they’ll get so used to their safe-space that they won’t be able to handle all the shitposting.
              And we know mod tools can only do so much, if they couldn’t handle it with not so many users, I don’t know what are they going to do later if more instances keep appearing and growing.