Hello R*ddit Refugees, I’d like to inform you all that Lemmy the software is created by communists. The ml stands for Marxist-Leninist. The head dev of lemmy hosts and moderates both lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml. Their user profile has a big banner of Mao. (https://lemmy.ml/u/dessalines), their github has a big repo listing US atrocities (https://github.com/dessalines/essays). They are what you r*dditors would describe as a “tankie”. I’ve seem so many posts by people acting scandalized that the communist moderators of a communist forum moderate in accordance to their communist principles. I’m not here to argue politics, I’m here to suggest that perhaps you should use a different platform entirely if you disagree with the moderation here so much. There are many alternatives to lemmy like kbin.
Of course, some common reactions I’ve seem so far are:
“It doesn’t matter, just use another instance that blocks lemmygrad”.
Software reflects the beliefs of its creators; ex. R*ddit is a cesspit because Steve Huffman is a libertarian CSAM apologist who sent the main mod of r/jailbait an award. Even if you use another instance not hosted by the lemmy devs you’re still using software created by a communist. For example, there is a hard coded slur filter in the lemmy code that removes words such as the n-word and similar racial slurs. Personally I think this is perfectly fine and anyone opposed to such a filter is a child, but Free speech absolutists and libertarians among you probably find such a detail abhorrent. I suggest you simply find other software, or go back to r*ddit.
“Well then we should just fork lemmy and take control from these evil communists”
You could, there’s nothing stopping you, but you could also just use some other software. Many of you redditors seem to find lemmygrad to be vile amd evil supporters of genocide. Personally, if I came across software created by a genocide supporter I would not use it or any derivative simply on principle, but of course you r*dditors might have weaker morals. In technical terms, these sorts of forks based on ideological grounds simply don’t last. Gab tried to do that with Mastodon and look where that went.
In conclusion, I think it would be best for everyone if those of you who disagree with Lemmy’s communist affiliations chose alternative software. Lemmy isn’t anything special, you can go use kbin or mastodon or pleroma if you truly want a federated r*ddit alternative. I’m sure the creators of lemmy would want the software to become popular irregardless of everyone’s political beliefs, but it simply is not a tenable position to have the majority of users on the lemmyverse be diametrically opposed to the developers and the largest instances.
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For example, there is a hard coded slur filter in the lemmy code that removes words such as the n-word and similar racial slurs. Personally I think this is perfectly fine and anyone opposed to such a filter is a child, but Free speech absolutists and libertarians among you probably find such a detail abhorrent. I suggest you simply find other software, or go back to r*ddit.
There WAS a hard coded slur filter in the lemmy code that removed words such as the n-word and similar racial slurs. It’s gone now. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622
As per the “communist devs”:
This issue was completed a long time ago, the slur filter is entirely optional, you can add one using the config: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/configuration.html
EDIT and so your point “Software reflects the beliefs of its creators;” is supported - in the case of lemmy - by literally nothing.
Why not?
I am diametrically opposed to the cloistering of the Amish and have nice chairs.
The idea that the best idea shouldn’t win because they believe someone or something you don’t is lunacy when you have the entire disgression on how to engage with them.
More interesting to me if you study the fediverse model, their ideology might lead me to ascribe some confidence in the model the same as I have in Amish work ethic. Especially as someone who knows you can be pro marx and still think defending Stalin makes you a loon.
This post is pure pseudo intellectual trash lmao
I hope you had fun writing it, cuz I sure as fuck ain’t reading the whole thing.
I am diametrically opposed to the cloistering of the Amish and have nice chairs.
Another meaningless argument through analogy. Typical R*dditor. Of course now the only way to respond to this is to either go on a tangent about the Amish or painstakingly point out how almost every single detail about the topic at hand is different from Amish furniture.
The idea that the best idea shouldn’t win because they believe someone or something you don’t is lunacy when you have the entire disgression
Can’t expect a r*dditor to actual read more than the bolded text I guess. It is the intention of the lemmy devs and a fact that software reflects the beliefs of the creators. I agree with the lemmy devs, but even if I didn’t I don’t see what makes lemmy so much better than kbin or pleroma, and why the explicit intentions of the devs shouldn’t be taken into consideration.
I’m honestly curious about people like you. You seem to believe that there is a genocide going on, that there are people who support it, and that this fact is wholely insignificant when debating the oh so sacred and important topic of r*ddit alternatives. Sickening.
Ignorant of history, and willing to loudly announce it. Start by googling the Soviet model and then graph it. Now look at the fediverse.
The point in Amish communities is they often result in terrible abuse, unreported and unprosecuted. I’ve been lucky enough to call a few friends from amongst that community, they wouldn’t end it despite seeing the same problems.
For all your high handed bull shit you and I are going to do precisely the same for the Uyghurs. What you can do is find a tool to leave your small world behind.
Because there is a world of grey.
Ok so you’ve chosen to go on a tangent about amish furniture, which apparently is more important to you than a genocide.
What you can do is find a tool to leave your small world behind.
What you can do is touch grass instead of trying to find enlightenment through some tankie’s rust project.
As always the goal is to learn.
On the Amish, the point is both communities on whatever scale abuse those beneath them. Statistically you probably are in a demographic area to actually impact the Amish, but aren’t of China. But you’re twice as bent out of shape on scope as where you could actually fix a similar problem for voiceless individuals.
I don’t forgive the abusers, but the idea that a modeled federated system is both in their ideology and model of the fediverse means they have a pretty clear idea of it. I come from the era where the biggest problem was death by committee and they’ll know it well. How are they going to tackle the explosion of federators?
The point to a pluralist society is being able to have a dialogue. Because someone had the best idea for everything even if they were an idiot about everything else.
All these words about amish furniture and you end with a whataboutism. Amazing. All this because you truly believe that a genocide is less important than federated social media and “pluralism”. I have no words. You r*dditors scare me.
