Striker@lemmy.world to A Boring Dystopia@lemmy.world · 11 months agoReactionaries and inconsistency are a match made in heavenlemmy.worldimagemessage-square125fedilinkarrow-up11.72Karrow-down138
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minus-squareEmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.delinkfedilinkarrow-up53arrow-down4·11 months agoIllegal immigrants actually pay into state and local taxes way more than legal citizens and green-card holders do. And since they’re here undocumented, they can’t get anything in return for paying those taxes.
minus-squaresystemglitch@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up6arrow-down1·edit-211 months agoThey pay more huh? That’s some magical shit right there lol
minus-squareDarthBueller@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·edit-211 months agoThey pay more if you consider that they frequently pay SS with no payout for them.
minus-squareShortFuse@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4·edit-211 months agoI looked up the numbers a while back but this 2017 study says at least 50%, meaning the majority pay taxes. https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-state-local-tax-contributions-2017/ Also, note that only 59.9% of households pay taxes, which means legal status isn’t that important in terms of whether people pay taxes or not. They also won’t likely get any social security money either.
minus-squareSanyanov@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·11 months agoHow does it work btw? Do you come to your country’s tax authority and say “hello, I’m here illegally, can I pay taxes” ?
minus-squareShortFuse@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·edit-211 months agoYou file your taxes under a special SSN that begins with a 9 that is given to you by the IRS specifically for filing. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin#itin
minus-squareSanyanov@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·11 months agoAnd you’re not immediately arrested for, like, illegally working or potentially illegally crossing the border to begin with? Or is it like taxing criminal activity, simply a loophole to make charging them easier?
minus-squarefunkless_eck@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down1·11 months agoa) different departments, tax department doesn’t deal with immigration law b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at… yknow… [gestures generally]
minus-squareEmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.delinkfedilinkarrow-up2·11 months agoWhenever they get a paycheck from a legitimate business, they’re paying into those taxes.
Illegal immigrants actually pay into state and local taxes way more than legal citizens and green-card holders do.
And since they’re here undocumented, they can’t get anything in return for paying those taxes.
They pay more huh? That’s some magical shit right there lol
They pay more if you consider that they frequently pay SS with no payout for them.
I looked up the numbers a while back but this 2017 study says at least 50%, meaning the majority pay taxes.
https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-state-local-tax-contributions-2017/
Also, note that only 59.9% of households pay taxes, which means legal status isn’t that important in terms of whether people pay taxes or not. They also won’t likely get any social security money either.
How does it work btw? Do you come to your country’s tax authority and say “hello, I’m here illegally, can I pay taxes” ?
You file your taxes under a special SSN that begins with a 9 that is given to you by the IRS specifically for filing.
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin#itin
And you’re not immediately arrested for, like, illegally working or potentially illegally crossing the border to begin with?
Or is it like taxing criminal activity, simply a loophole to make charging them easier?
a) different departments, tax department doesn’t deal with immigration law
b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at… yknow… [gestures generally]
I see, thanks!
Whenever they get a paycheck from a legitimate business, they’re paying into those taxes.