I don’t mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I’m curious about people’s outlook on this situation.
No idea - but I actually think the Fediverse concept maps to Reddit way better than it has other social networks so I could see some iteration of this really catching on over time.
For something like Twitter, the whole value proposition is “one big universal conversation” and the federated stuff gets in the way of that a little bit, but Reddit has always been a federation of communities (who occasionally fight, join together, cross post, etc) - that maps really well to this stuff.
I have no intention of installing the official Reddit app. I’ve used Apollo for years and I’ll leave once it’s no longer an option. The way Reddit treated the Apollo developer is inexcusable.
I managed to quit Twitter, I’m certain I can quit Reddit too.
I can guarantee I won’t be going back to reddit on mobile if they go ahead with the API changes. I may occasionally use reddit on desktop but 99% of my reddit usage was on mobile via Sync.
Once they get rid of old.reddit (which they inevitably will) that will force my hand and I’ll have to fully move to Lemmy. As luck would have it, the developer of Sync is considering re-purposing it to run on Lemmy which would be perfect for me.
I’m hoping Apollo does the same.
And have them blackmail the Fediverse? I think not! ^^^^^^/s
I’m a Reddit mod and Sync is one of my favorite apps, so that’s exciting news! The ONLY reason I have the official Reddit app on my phone is to stay up to date on my chats when they come in.
I’m probably going to start using Reddit again when the blackout ends and keep using it until the end of the month, but once RIF stops working I don’t see myself going back. The way I see it, the last couple of days have been a nice stress-test period for Lemmy, but the real exodus will start in July.
Yeah Sync for Reddit is shutting down at the end of the month, so I’ll go back and save some of my favorites and then officially get off Reddit for good come July.
Same here. It’s been good whilst it lasted. Won’t be using Reddit once Apollo stops working.
I’m kind if shocked subs didn’t have a lemmy community already in mind when they went dark. Just a sign that they ate doing their token protest and the lb back to business as usual in the next few days.
Impossible to say now, but definitely quite a lot of them are not going to be regular users. I still hope/believe the majority will stay though.
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The community here is much better IMHO
Much less toxic
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What’s wrong with lemmygrad? I haven’t been there yet so I don’t know.
At the very least the exposure will put Lemmy on the map
Probably a good chunk, I don’t mean to be pessimistic either but that’s how it usually works on “big” movements.
Some people follow the flow because they’re caught into the enthusiasm of the moment while not being actually convinced about what they’re doing, those people are highly likely to go back when things are back to normal (tho in my opinion reddit will never be “normal” again).
How many they are is impossible to tell.
The blackout is only the first wave, there will be another one IMO when 3rd party apps actually shutdown (June 30th), after that, things will settle and population on lemmy will lower, that’s not a bad thing IMO, it doesn’t do any good to have people here that don’t actually want to be here.
As for me, since I joined I’m doing my best to be involved in lemmy communities with the specific purpose of not missing reddit anymore and not care anymore when they’ll break old.reddit (they will like their doing with the API).
I already feel at home here, I’m not going drastic as to nuke my reddit account or anything, tho I’ll most probably make a GDPR request and leave for good.
Not going back unless I’m looking for some obscure piece of knowledge. This fulfills my needs for news and conversations about niche topics. Hoping this keeps growing and new mobile apps come out to support it
I’ve been using Jerboa on Android, it works quite well! I especially appreciate the “all” feed where you can see posts from all instances.
A bit difficult to know if the app or the instance is bugging out when something goes wrong, but I’ve realized it’s mostly the instance (lemmy.ml). I assume it’s because all of us Reddit users have come over!
Been using Jerboa for a week and so far so good. So I’m staying here for the long run.
Yeah, I hope enough people stay to make it somewhat active.
I don’t think the kind of people who are willing to try out some geeky experiment of a social network are totally dependent on Reddit culture.
Exodus from one network to another (or to nowhere) is a thing that’s happened in the past, and if anything, people aren’t willing to go back once they finally take the effort.
Tho I’m guessing lots of people have multiple accounts such as alts for r34, and may keep using those until Reddit finally shuts off all nsfw.
This is still a new frontier of site conglomeration we have no data for. If anything we have contradicting data to previous instances of this occurring because megasites have yet to fail since the rise of Facebook.
There have been MySpace -> FB, Digg -> Reddit, Viber -> WhatsApp, Hotmail -> Gmail, BlackBerry -> iPhone. Neither was 100% conversion, some kept their relevancy in certain markets, but those were quite some waves.
Also, Tumblr completely kicked the bucket with its users dispersing, and while OF managed to save itself by backtracking, people were already migrating to other services.
It may be true that the likes of FB, Twitter and Reddit are too big to fail right now, but people also keep finding alternatives.
So, we’ll see.
There’s still no mainstream competitor for Reddit. I love Lemmy, but the idea that someone with little to no computer expirence is going to find it easy to join and use is laughable.
I will likely go where Reddit Sync goes. I don’t really mind if the content here isn’t as vast as on Reddit, if I have Sync I have all that I need
Oh right, until then I’m actually using this platform straight from the browser. It’s actually working good enough for me that way.
I’m staying; I primarily use Reddit on mobile - once RIF is gone, I’m gone. I am not using the official app even if they pay me.
I’m not here because lemmy is better right now, but because I want to move towards open platforms and a better future. It’s an investment. Deciding to move right back to reddit 2 days after they just stabbed you in the back is shortsighted in the extreme. Reddit will not stop until it devours itself and you along with it. Disabling the API is only the latest in a long line of anti-user changes in favor of money, and you can be sure there’s more on the horizon.
I’d encourage anyone who isn’t 100% satisfied with lemmy and its user experience right now to give it some leeway, because you’re comparing the experience to reddit apps that have had years and years of polish. With a community and donations to servers and developers, we can quickly fix the most egregious papercuts. These are growing pains, and they won’t last forever.
I have to image that most people with no intention of staying would not make accounts. Registered users are probably at least contemplating staying here for more than a couple of days. So the question for me is: will the communities here build a critical mass to sustain themselves after the blackout?
For me personally it’s very simple. I will keep using Lemmy if there is enough activity to be worth it. I don’t need it to be perfect or as active as Reddit or whatever. Just meaningful enough to warrant my time. I will keep my Reddit account for the time being, though.
2 things.
Firstly, most will go back. With the enshittification of twitter in November mastodon experienced an influx of new users. It feels like for several weeks activity doubled, then it died down to about 30% of the increase and stayed there. So while most go back it was still great for Mastodon. Fosstodon users increased from 10k to 60k in a month.
Secondly, it’s not a mutually exclusive binary thing. Reddit will always have some great niche communities. There’s nothing wrong with following those, but you can also continue to follow some lemmy communities too.
Lemmy doesn’t need to become a reddit killer over night. I think for the fediverse in general there will be a few events like this each year, and if the fediverse get’s some exposure and increases in size, it just makes it more viable for the next round.
I think I’ll have a look in a couple of days. But if they go through and kill 3rd party apps that’s goodbye from me.
Agreed.
Old.reddit is OK on desktop. But on a mobile browser, it is constantly harassing you to the official app, which is absolutely terrible.
When Relay stops working, I don’t see myself going back to reddit much at all.
If there’s one demographic of users likely to stick with the fediverse it’s going to be redditors.
What makes you say that?
I’d say it’s the fact that even as time has gone on and reddit has gotten more casual users there is still a much higher percentage of “hardcore” users on Reddit versus other social media. Or at the very least the hardcore users have a lot more influence then on other social medias, since they’re the ones more likely to be posting content lots of people see and moderating content. As well as those users being a lot more likely to be willing to learn a new more complicated platform and more likely to be directly affected by 3rd part apps shutting down. This all combined means that the hardcore users the platform relies on are more likely to leave to places like here which without them will make the website worse and cause more casual users to leave.
