• FrankNebula@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    How ironic, he’s literally the only guy who can lose to Trump. Get another Democrat candidate.

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      I can think of a ton of democrats that would fare worse than him in a general election versus Trump. I know lemmy at large (and my own personal politics) don’t align with a more centrist Democrat but with first past the post voting targeting the middle of the electorate is how you win.

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          Trump won because the middle of the electorate largely hates Hillary Clinton. Coincidentally, she’s one of the Democrats that would do worse than Biden in a general election against Trump

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            Trump won because the middle of the electorate largely hates Hillary Clinton.

            Oh, really? Is that why Democrats been blaming progressives and only progressives for her loss ever since?

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              The party isn’t going to bad mouth a former First Lady that drives a huge amount of fundraising for them. I don’t like the fact that money is what drives politics but it’s where this country is at. Doesn’t change the fact that Hillary has a very high unfavorability rating, especially in swing states.

              Also, you’re allowed to disagree with me without posing it as a leading question.

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                The party isn’t going to bad mouth a former First Lady that drives a huge amount of fundraising for them.

                That doesn’t mean they have to blame progressives, but holy fuck do they love doing so.

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                  Agreed. I think that speaks to how entrenched all this dark money is. I think repealing citizens United and implementing something like single transferable vote instead of first past the post would do a lot to fix American democracy and actually empower people over capital

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      1 year ago

      And he’s also the only one who’s even remotely worth winning. Seeing as how all the good options aren’t even attempting a campaign. And even if they were, the DNC has basically already decided Biden will be the candidate.