If Biden really wants to sweeten this, he should propose improvements to the ACA, in addition to preserving what Republicans have thus far failed to kill. Start playing offense.
Get rid of the concept of deductibles, bring back that public option, allow year-round sign up, there are a lot of improvements that could be made. Unfortunately Democrats are not the party of solutions, they are a party of maintaining a status quo.
They are a party of doing as much as they are able and not promising what they can’t do.
You’d complain twice as hard if they said they would try to implement the above then failed to get the votes
Oh please, they don’t even celebrate their victories, which really makes them look do nothing and hurts the campaign
I won’t disagree with that
I think our parties are only interested in offending each other, not in doing something that actually helps a majority of Americans.
Yawning @ yet another BoTh SiDeS
One party got Obamacare done and is responsible that 40 million Americans who otherwise wouldn’t have health insurance are covered by the Affordable Care Act.
The other side has sabotaged Obamacare in any kind of way possible, has blocked the Obamacare expansion to uninsured people in their own home states, has sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to eliminate Obamacare, has campaigned for 10 years against Obamacare, and came to within one single vote of eliminating Obamacare without any kind of replacement whatsoever.
And here you are, telling us how both parties are the same.
One party got Obamacare done
15 years ago and are still trying to coast on it.
Obamacare should be the starting point for changes in the American Healthcare system, unfortunately Democrats keep acting like it is the ceiling. No it is not the Conquering or slaying of a great dragon, it just merely putting on Armor so that fighting the dragon is feasible.
How many out of those years did Democrats have the White House, a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, and a majority in the House?
If your answer is “zero,” then you’re just admitting that the last time Democrats had a viable majority, they actually got shit done.
They could have done away with the filibuster permanently with a simple majority.
They choose not to.
Why should Democrats want to permanently do away with the filibuster when they only ever had a razor thin majority and were facing an opposition hellbent on destroying the entirety of the Affordable Care Act and leaving 40 million Americans without health insurance?
Last time voters gave Democrats a significant enough majority, they got the Affordable Care Act. If voters want Democrats to act decisively, all they need to do is give them a decisive majority.
Voting for Republicans and then whining that Democrats get nothing done isn’t going to achieve anything.
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Trump will do what he did last time. Claim to have a Healthcare plan. Point to an enormous pile of blank paper saying it’s his Healthcare plan or something. And continue to have absolutely no plan and make no progress. Followers will irrationally feel like things are improving even though nothing has changed. Or actually gotten worse if they manage to get control of the house and senate and kill the affordable care act. Expect gains Biden made in his administration, like for the first time allowing Medicare to bargain with drug companies for better prices, to also be on the chopping block.
For a candidate that was the first real meme candidate, it’s pretty amazing there aren’t popular memes about his lying and deflection and haplessness.
It seems the gish gallop works in the dank.
My dude, where was your internet during those 4 years? We absolutely had tons of memes about it. There was just so much material that the quantity drowned out the quality.
Totally. I’ll never forget about perpetual infrastructure week.
Also was kind of funny that in the end a large infrastructure bill was one of the first things Biden/congress actually did after taking office.
Oh, I get there was memes, but none have survived the passage of time in the same way. Thanks obama has survived.
It’s the sheer volume of trumps inadequacies. None stick in the same way as he’s as disposable as his memes. With high quantity, I’d expect some to rise to the challenge. None really did. None capture the moment or zeitgeist around him.
Perhaps referring to him and his administration as a dumpster fire did, but that was more language catching on than a meme.
The drowning out is partially my point. A gosh gallop is giving so much misinformation that to properly rebut is not possible,
Ironically, Thanks Obama has been retired
Trump promised a health care plan by August 2020. It obviously never came. There is no Trump health care plan other than repealing a Healthcare policy 60% of Americans have favorable views of. A great target for the Biden campaign.
Yeah, let’s throw millions of Americans back into the clutches of the scarcely regulated health insurance industry like it used to be. That’s a winning message. Please proceed, Mr. Trump.
It is a winning message for the “Fuck you, I got mine” crowd.
It’s also a winning message for the I-vote-my-values-not-my-best-interest crowd.
Personally I am still on team repeal and replace, repeal the Affordable Care Act and just go with a single-payer healthcare program like you would find in any Civilized Nation
“Affordable” Care Act.
Ha.
I need surgery. The list price is $40,000. The cash-up-front price through a hospital was $9500. The price for the same surgery through an ambulatory surgical clinic is $4700. I am offered insurance through my workplace. My monthly premiums would be $200, I would have an annual deductible of about $5000 before 20% coinsurance, and then an out of pocket maximum of $9500. My price through workplace insurance would be $11,900 (monthly premiums + out of pocket max). I can get a platinum plan on the Healthcare.gov that would cost me $750/mo in premiums–I don’t qualify for any subsidies because I can get shitty insurance through my workplace–that has an annual deductible of $750, and an out of pocket maximum of $1500. So the same surgery would be $10,500 for a full-price plan on the marketplace.
Short of a catastrophic accident or illness, insurance just isn’t affordable, and doesn’t make sense. Unless Biden can fix the system so that you can get subsidies on the marketplace even if you are eligible for insurance through your employer, it’s just not going to work. I would definitely pay $250-300/mo for a platinum plan, but I can’t afford $750/mo, and I can’t afford to pay both the premiums and the deductible for what I can get through my workplace.
Fail until you claim victory?
Biden ran on a public option and never delivered. Trump promised that he had a good healthcare plan, and it was all bullshit. Biden is now funding war crimes and a genocide in Palestine. Why do we have to choose between these two? Fuck this.
Edit: bullying people into voting for Democrats(or any asshole for that matter) will never work. Downvotes and name calling will only make shit worse. Grow up and bring up sound arguments, instead of being a total toolbag and a blind fucking sheep who just wants to “vote blue no matter who”.
As disappointed as I am with the Biden administration, I must have missed where Biden’s campaign was ambitious enough to run on revisiting the public option. Do you have a source for that?
A quick search on YouTube yielded a ton of videos. This is one just one of them https://youtu.be/WzBnMtwysqw?si=3nUjljP6ZRtZYdW-
Thank you. I appreciate the source.
Can’t say it surprises me that Biden would run on something and not even attempt to do it. If anyone can provide me a source for Biden’s attempt to pass a public option, I’m all ears.
No problem. He never did. Not even a beep. He even said he’d veto a Medicare for all bill if it ever came to his desk. Here
Trump will release his plan in 2 weeks.
Along with his taxes 😂
Why do we have to choose between these two?
Because unfortunately our options at this point in time in the US are fascism and not fascism.
A lot of democratic and left-leaning Americans didn’t vote for Biden or Hillary, but rather they voted against Trump.
So either fascism or a genocide supporter. Got it.
I love how supposedly Trump would both be defending Palestinians right now and not have let Putin genocide Ukraine. Every single time lmao.
Trump says whatever comes to his mind first. It doesn’t matter what it is, he’ll just say it. The dude says whatever he thinks is trending and makes people happy. He can say two conflicted things in a matter of seconds. I’ve never seen a more full of shit person in my life. I cannot wrap my head around how millions of people actually believed the dude and voted for him and are still believing his bullshit. Holy fuck!
Sorry, let me rephrase the “fascist” bit like how you rephrased the “not fascist” bit:
A potential christofascist nation that practices crony capitalism, removes rights from women, people of color, children, and trans people, and has access to the biggest army and nuclear arsenal to manifest destiny with, or a a genocide supporter.
The facist supports genocide more as well, don’t forget that. Best friends with Netanyahu. In fact, Trump explicitly endorsed Netanyahu in Israel’s elections. Trump also moved to recognize Israeli settlements as legal (decades of US precendent had treated these as Illegal under international law), moved the US embassy to Jerusalem against the wishes of Palestinians, and tons more.
Handy list: 100 times Trump supported Israel
Anyone expecting Trump to put more pressure on Israel than Biden is going to be very disappointed.
That’s why I’ve been screaming about the two shitty ass choices we have (People keep downvoting me when I say I won’t vote for Biden either). This needs to stop. We can’t be always stuck with this “the lesser of two evils” forever. We can’t always vote for the other person just because he is not a Republican, that’s just fucking bullshit. I need to vote for a person who actually has my best interest in mind. People still go bankrupt from medical bills. Still neck deep in student loans debt. Kids still can’t get free meals in school. The country still looks like a 3rd world country. I want that shit to be taken care of, I don’t want to just “beat the Republicans” in this fucking circus.
It’s not because he’s not a republican. If there was a republican who didn’t have horrific policies in literally every area maybe I would consider voting for them.
I’m tired of this “both sides” are the same crap that is obviously untrue for anyone who pays even the slightest bit of attention. No the democrats haven’t been perfect even though they have done a lot of good, but the republicans are actively working to hurt most people.
For your examples, which political party is trying to strip Healthcare coverage from more people? Which political party is trying to make it so half of all Americans can’t get any Healthcare coverage again by bringing back junk insurance and pre existing conditions? What political party refuses to expand Medicaid to cover more people out of pure spite when money is sitting there on the table for it? What policital party sued to stop student loan debt forgiveness? What political parry appointed the hack judges who decided Biden wasn’t allowed to forgive student debt even with multiple laws explicitly saying he can? What political party raised student loan interest rates in the past? What political party held the entire government and full faith and credit of the united states hostage rather than let nationwide free school lunch continue? (not to mention most democratic states immediately reinstated it on a state level)
So sure there are some legitimate criticisms, I think he could do more to pressure Israel, though finally he’s gotten the “pause” he wanted. But get out of here with this both sides are the same stuff. That’s not remotely true and never has been.
Sorry mate, but as of this coming election, these are probably your choices. If you don’t vote, the only thing you’re doing is increasing the risk of the greater of two evils.
If you want better politicians to run for president (which is a very reasonable wish to have) you’re first going to have to vote them in at lower levels. The problem, to me, appears to be that those who make it to the top end up being bad choices for a lot of people. I attribute that to low voter turnout in lower level elections, which leads to decent politicians never making it to the point where they can run for top level offices.
I’m not going to shred on you for feeling apathetic, I can understand that. I’m just going to point out that when given the choice between two evils, you need to reflect on whether you think it’s right to not choose, even if that leads to the greater of the two coming to pass.
Thank you for not going the “I’m going to bully you into voting for my candidate and make you feel like shit for even thinking of not voting for them” route. I’ve made up my mind. I’m not sitting it out, but I’m not voting for either of the two options I have, but I’ll vote.
