• ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Gotta say it’s funny to me how this fact is so shocking to people yet male circumcision is so commonplace a lot of women won’t even touch a non circumcised penis.

    This isn’t tryna be whataboutism it’s just genuinely ironically funny to me

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      11 months ago

      To be fair, female circumcision is far more horrific than male circumcision. It often involves cutting or burning off the clitoris and is explicitly a method of controling the sexuality of women.

      That said, male circumcision is also bullshit and a violation of bodily autonomy.

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        11 months ago

        Like I said I get it.

        But it can easily be boiled down to, the torture of this baby is fine but the torture of that baby is abhorrent.

        Kinda like the orphan crushing machine. Why are we torturing babies at all?

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          So you don’t get it? The reason is obviously some people find one thing less bad than the other and objectively speaking FGM is worse than male circumcision.

          For (I believe) most people in the world both are bad. You can be against both and still see a difference. What is shocking about that?

          To believe someone is pro male circumcision just because they think (several types of) FGM are worse is zero-sum thinking.

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            You’re the one who doesn’t get that my point is why are we fucking with infants genitals at all.

            It really doesn’t matter which method is worse than the other.

            That’s why I brought up the orphan crushing machine. A story about someone saving orphans, from an orphan crushing machine, is seen as something to be celebrated. Yet no one questions why there’s an orphan crushing machine to begin with.

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              You explicitly wrote that you are shocked people react differently. The reason is they have different practices in mind. In context of that question this difference does matter.

              That doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not you are against both practices or not.

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        there’s actually a pretty broud spectrum of procedures referred to as female circumcision. most of them are far more extreme than male circumcision, but type 1a is basically equivalent, though by far a minority. other forms are even worse than you’ve described.

        but i’ve also got to point out that male circumcision is also explicitely a method of sexual control, among other excuses. a major reason it ever caught on in america was in an effort to prevent masturbation.

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          Interestingly, clitoral hood reduction, which would be the most similar to male circumcision, is sometimes done voluntarily to improve sensation.

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      Female speaking up here: They’re missing out then, circumcised penises have never been as much fun as uncircumcised. The sex is just better when their dick is unmutilated. Trust me when I say I have tried both and know the difference. Even if they were mutilated at birth.

      Also, as an added bonus, people who are uncut tend to have better hygiene, and know how to clean their bits! Circumcised people are never as clean. I mean ew. Honestly. It shouldn’t be so difficult. This is all anecdotal of course, but so far true for every encounter. Clean your dicks, people! Your lady friend will notice.