PARIS, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Six teenagers go on trial behind closed doors on Monday, accused of involvement in the beheading of French history teacher Samuel Paty by a suspected Islamist in 2020 in an attack that struck at the heart of the country’s secular values.
The teacher had shown his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression, angering a number of Muslim parents. Muslims believe that any depiction of the Prophet is blasphemous.
Religious extremists are the touchy ones. Plenty of Muslim folks who go on with their lives in peace.
I do agree that islamist extremists are the worst.
Yeah, at the most, the Muslims in my life would’ve said “hey I find that disrespectful can you please not” and go about their day.
Give them power and let’s see how they behave.
I’d argue those muslims are not properly following the text of their religion.
Same for the more “tolerant” Christians, but that’s not the point of this conversation.
And I’d argue you’re wrong.
You could make that argument. It would just be a baseless emotional argument disputed by facts.
Read the books man. It’s all right there in the text.
I have studied them for years.
To be honest, the Nationalist Christians (Nat-C’s) that we have here at home are pretty fucking unsettling. They know that it’s their god-given right to be in charge of everything and they will “save” everyone by trying to force their twisted interpretation of religious texts onto the populace with zero compromise, because “that’s god’s plan”.
They’re just as bad as Islamic extremists; they’re just committing their violence in more official channels and in a slower fashion, up until the day that they manage to get an unshakable hold on power (read: establish a “theocratic” dictatorship, like the Republic of Gilead from Handmaid’s Tale, which they took as an aspirational goal instead of a cautionary story).
Yep. They’re killing people through legislation and propaganda, instead of more directly observable ways. But it’s still clear
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In Europe there are more Muslim refugees though, than, for example, in North America which gets more regular Muslim immigrants.
It’s a specific problem in Europe with an influx of refugees from war torn and poor countries who are often troubled, more extreme in their religion and potentially less educated (because they fled from shitty countries).
I guess it’s more connected to those circumstances than with Islam in itself. Statistically, more educated and better off people are less religious. I suspect that’s the same with Muslims?!
You don’t get to say “some Muslims are in peace”. Muslims are part of a religion that is causing a lot of troubles.
When someone is part of a big organization, like the police, one does not get to say “not all of us are pigs”. If they are not raising their hand and telling on the shitty people causing problems, then everyone is the problem.
Everyone says this bullshit until it’s their group causing the problems and then all of a sudden they deserve mercy and understanding for how complex their situation is.
Most Muslims are decent people. If they weren’t, the west would be in a continuous state of violence. People like you are just racist assholes looking for any excuse to justify your prejudice.
You don’t get to judge an entire group by the worst members without it coming back to bite you in the ass some day.
If I were part of a religion that is so extrem that is killing people and attacking members of the LGBT community, etc, I would 100% leave said religion/group. Its not really that hard to do it. A decent person wouldn’t be a part of those kind of groups.
I mean… you’re a citizen of a country, right?
your addiction to analogies hasn’t helped you a bit into at least making proper analogies
And your education has sadly failed you in teaching you what an analogy is.
An analogy is a comparison. I wasn’t comparing, just trying to teach you a basic logical thought process. Don’t worry, I’ve given up on that. I can see why your teachers failed. Prejudice is a hell of an intelligence blocker.
Once again a stupid analogy. I can’t be not a citizen of any country. You can be not a member of any religion.
You can choose to leave a country and join a different one. But you haven’t, so you belong to it.
But your thought processes are clearly blocked. I’m certainly not going to try to open them. Closed minds are boring.
You wouldn’t give a shit if you did. Most of my Muslim friends aren’t religious at all, pro-LGBT and everything. They still get shat on by racist fucks like you. You don’t care about people.
Oh so you have the whole world figured out now? Collective punishment is for fascists.
Fucking piece of shit. You’re no different from the intolerant people you hate so much.
Quick glance tells me you’re mexican… Which Cartel do you work for then?
Cartels aren’t a religion that are trying to expand over the world.
It is honestly, with all due respect, a very stupid comparison.
Just saying; your take wasn’t exactly enlightened either.
It’s just as stupid as your moronic comparison, cartel enabler. If you really cared about the damage the cartels do to the world you’d leave Mexico. We don’t want to hear your excuses.
I left Mexico many years ago, lol. Now you leave your religion of peace.
You left to where, the US to commit more crime? Stay tf away from civilization please. We don’t need more Mexican criminals here.
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Oh, so it’s okay to belong to a group of people whose open tenet is murdering and enslaving people, but a religion that teaches against those things, but has a few nutjobs is somehow not?
Strong logic there. Completely free of bias. 🙄
Who is saying that cartels are ok?
Also… “a religion that teaches against those things”. You are really brainwashed.
You’re excusing cartels: organizations that are absolutely and unashamedly expanding and taking over the world, simply because they aren’t a religion.
That may not be your intended meaning, but it’s definitely connotated.
Dogma doesn’t have to have a God to be dangerous.
Fuck cartels, that’s the reason I left Mexico.
You can also leave your religion of peace.