This just seems redundant.

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    I don’t believe you did this:

    I have read lots of ML spaces, and listened to ML podcasts and watched ML channels on youtube and twitch.

    And never found answers to your questions.

    Btw your source about atrocities of communism go 50% higher than even the infamous and long debunked Black Book, but it’s apparently “pretty great summary according to you”. Again your statement above is non withstanding.

    Did you know one of the founders of Lemmy have a reading list? It’s slightly outdated and some things might be deleted but here you have:

    https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/socialism_faq.md

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      That’s a great list. Love it. Will go through it.

      You still haven’t addressed my main criticism of auth-left, which is the fact that mass murder completely discredits everything the left stands for.

      Also, this is complete and utter bullshit:

      Left-communists and ultra-leftists comprise the conservative and reactionary wing of leftism

      Ultras react to the myriad dire problems facing humanity today by forsaking objective material conditions, retreating into idealism, revelling in infantile fantasy, and indulging in retrograde magical thinking, besides solipsistic one-upmanship, collecting leftist nerd-credit online, and smug self-satisfaction. They look down on and hate communists participating in and supporting real life struggles, because we disturb them from the comfort and safety of their narcissistic ivory towers.

      Wow… that’s how you see us? Really?

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        You still haven’t addressed my main criticism of auth-left, which is the fact that mass murder completely discredits everything the left stands for.

        Because you have mendacious critics coming from literal nazis in many cases, there is nothin to address. You also arrived at purely anticommunist point of view that we “like” the mass murder. No, liberal, we don’t, marxist revolutionaries just never allowed it to stop them and cripple the revolution if it was needed. Something that anarchists also did in the two rare cases when they managed to do something resembling revolution and weren’t subordinated to the forces of reaction. What you present looks like the liberal pacifism, and afaik is not espoused by any real historical revolutionary movement.

        Wow… that’s how you see us? Really?

        Yes, literally, because it’s truth in most cases, definitely the ones like you, demanding explanation for what nazis tell you we did. And not even entire truth because it misses the fact how ultras and anarchists are very often used as the tools for reaction, from the Kronshtadt rebellion through the ongoing COINTELPRO program to recent cases in Syria and Ukraine.

        Some exception were the case, like some Maoists here and there or Posadists in Cuba, but the maoist struggle never brought any fruit even despite sometimes decades of tries and Posadists got ultimately dissolved by their inherently unstable ideology.

        As you said we most likely won’t make eachother mind.