CLAIM: Security camera footage from Jan. 6, 2021, shows a federal agent disguised as a supporter of then-President Donald Trump during the attack on the U.S. Capitol.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The footage shows Kevin James Lyons, a Chicago man who was sentenced in July to more than four years in federal prison for his role in the attack. Multiple images of Lyons at the Capitol, dressed as he is in the footage, appear in court documents.
THE FACTS: After House Speaker Mike Johnson on Friday began releasing thousands of hours of footage from the Capitol insurrection, social media users — including members of Congress — seized on a clip they claimed proved that undercover federal agents participated in the riot.
Ahh, I see. So their real purpose all along in releasing footage was to use it as propaganda, not to get to the truth. Is anybody surprised by this?
Most of us assumed this the moment he announced its release.
As I said when Johnson released the footage, it’s not going to be any change to what know really happened, there’s just going to be all sorts of wild conspiracy theories coming out of idiots seeing blurry images and claiming false things, and the fact checks will disprove them but the fact checks don’t get spread to the people who believe the false claims.
Worse, those people have convinced themselves that fact checkers are “deep state,” so the presence of fact checkers debunking their claims they just take as further confirmation, because “why would the deep state have to try and debunk something if it wasn’t true in the first place?”
These people have left object reality and we can’t keep pretending that we can bring them back with truth and logic.
Edit: typo
Kinda like religious absolutists
“any argument against my faith is the devil tempting me”
It is unclear exactly what Lyons is holding in his right hand when he flashes his palms.
It is 100% clear what Lyons is holding in his right hand when he flashes his palms. It’s a vape.
@snaptastic, don’t forget to check my comment for relevancy.
Jesus. I don’t even vape and I can tell what that is just from seeing people use them around town.
What’s the deal with the snaptastic thing? Keep seeing it.
Since this is a politics sub, I’m sure @snaptastic would not find this topic relevant, so I will not comment on it.
Is there like a u/outoftheloop? I keep seeing this dude tagged with that comment lately.
It’s just a user who was “called out for an irrelevant comment“ and got salty, so now they’re tagging the commenter to ask if their comments are relevant.
Soooo, basically cyber bullying?
I guess so. I assume snaptastic blocked them immediately, so it doesn’t feel especially harmful, just really immature.
Good thing you didn’t comment.
Great way to add to the conversation. Really made a good point about OP’s post.
Jesus Christ between tagging that dude and using the tritest non-comment in history (“I bEt YoU’rE fUn At PaRtIeS”) you sound exhausting as fuck
In the picture I saw it looked like one of those card deck shaped vape pens with the mouthpiece sticking out of the top.
It’s absolutely a box style vape mod.
The cons latch onto some of the dumbest things ever.
And of course, they cannot even be consistent. At the same time as this dumb Qanon-style idiocy, they also cry about how they are “political prisoners” and get wood at the idea of the orange blob pardoning the insurrectionists.
I’m not sure I’m following the comments. It was republicans who made the badge claim, so doesn’t this hurt them?
Can’t prove them wrong if they close their eyes and put their fingers in their ears.
Not certain I’m following your question well: R’s and randos started the claim that j6 had an undercover agent involved and that there’s a video,that was just by R’s, released that proves that. If you’re watching disinformational videos, then adds to the idea that J6 was a setup and that R’s are trying to ve transparent. This article clarifies that the video doesn’t show an agent at J6.
Only if their supporters cared about facts. Considering we’re talking about MAGAs/republicans, it’s safe to assume the truth is immaterial to their talking points.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word. Honesty has never been a conservative trait.
Does it matter? They won’t admit they were wrong, they’ll double down.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
CLAIM: Security camera footage from Jan. 6, 2021, shows a federal agent disguised as a supporter of then-President Donald Trump during the attack on the U.S. Capitol.
The footage shows Kevin James Lyons, a Chicago man who was sentenced in July to more than four years in federal prison for his role in the attack.
THE FACTS: After House Speaker Mike Johnson on Friday began releasing thousands of hours of footage from the Capitol insurrection, social media users — including members of Congress — seized on a clip they claimed proved that undercover federal agents participated in the riot.
“And that ladies and gentlemen is a badge… with a red hat and fully disguised,” reads one post on X that shared a screenshot of the footage paused as Lyons is flashing his palms.
In another, he sits in a car holding a framed photograph from Pelosi’s office, which shows her with the late Congressman John Lewis, a civil rights movement icon who died in July 2020.
More than 700 have been sentenced, with roughly two-thirds receiving terms of imprisonment ranging from three days to 22 years.___This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online.
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This is actually a bad summary, misses important points like: the misinformation refers to a clip in which Lyons shows his palms in a way similar to how an agent flashes a badge. No badge was really in hand and we was sentenced for his participation in the protest.
That is often true of this bot.
Just curious, why are the republicans the ones releasing the tapes? Doesn’t it make the democrats look bad since they didn’t bother when they were in control of the house?
Not in my opinion. One thing the tapes also show is the layout of the capitol building, and (to a certain extent) what the response to the insurrection looked like. These are two valuable pieces of information for the next time they try this.
Reminder that the Nazi’s also failed in their first attempt to take over the Weimar Republic. Anyone unfamiliar, look up the beer hall putsch.
The putsch brought Hitler to the attention of the German nation for the first time and generated front-page headlines in newspapers around the world. His arrest was followed by a 24-day trial, which was widely publicised and gave him a platform to express his nationalist sentiments to the nation. Hitler was found guilty of treason and sentenced to five years in Landsberg Prison, where he dictated Mein Kampf to fellow prisoners Emil Maurice and Rudolf Hess. On 20 December 1924, having served only nine months, Hitler was released. Once released, Hitler redirected his focus towards obtaining power through legal means rather than by revolution or force, and accordingly changed his tactics, further developing Nazi propaganda.
Ah okay that makes sense thanks. And I saw what happened live, but I was just curious about it :)
No, it doesn’t.
Republicans are releasing it so they can cherry pick specific clips from it and lie to their gullible constituents about what is happening to try to spin a new false narrative about it, which is exactly what they’ve done here.
It’s shameful that people elect these charlatans.
No. Nobody but the Republicans cares what’s on those tapes, because they’re the only ones attempting to whitewash what happened. There’s nothing about that footage that will be particularly revelatory for the story of what happened that day. Know how I know?
I watched the entire thing unfold from people who were streaming in the crowd. It was horrifying. There were no federal agents, just a bunch of goddamn idiots who can’t tell they’re being played by the biggest grifter in the country.
What the footage will do is let people cherry pick their favorite hits they think exonerate them in the court of public opinion, and it will give the people who want to try Fascist Coup 2.0 an idea of what to expect inside.
Releasing security tapes give insurgent strategists the opportunity to review evacuation procedures and plan their next coup attempt.
Anyone who thinks this will not be repeated has not been paying attention to history.
Has a Democrat been the speaker of the house since January 6th?
Nancy Pelosi was SoH from 2019 up until the GOP regained control and McCarthy was elected this past January (2023).
