• nhgeek@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I worked for a startup in the 90s, pre-enshittification, that wanted to empower micropayments on the web. Obviously, even when mostly “frictionless”, users rejected the concept. Capitalism is going capitalize, but this is also the fault of users who demand “free”.

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      this is also the fault of users who demand “free”.

      This is in my opinion the crux of the matter. People want content for free: they won’t pay for it directly and they won’t watch ads (because they’re often much too intrusive.) Of course the root problem is the economic system, but barring a near global revolution that’s not going to change

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        Especially now that cost of living is through the roof. Who can afford to pay for content online when they can’t even afford to feed themselves every day?

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      Nowadays there is crypto, some of it is already perfect for micropayments. But it needs to be integrated into the browser/app to be truly frictionless, and there should be a “get your money back” option for the content that’s click bait and not worth the asking price. Unfortunately the largest browsers are Chrome and Edge, by companies who aren’t all that interesting in changing the way things are.

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        I am pretty convinced crypto as it currently is is 99% a scam or a way to waste a lot of money compared to a traditional financial transfer. It’s made worse by the environmental impacts of mining. Crypto would have to be something completely different before it’ll take off for any kind of traditional payment system. And I actually think we just need the government to mandate a better bank to bank payment system with no fees like they have in Europe. Anything else is too fragmented which means friction in use and higher fees converting between the competing systems.

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          You’re not wrong, but not all crypto is the same. Some have switched to “proof of stake” which removes all the energy wasted on mining, some allow to write programs into it that can execute automatically to do some interesting things, and some allow sending fractions (thousandths, millionths) of a USD with barely a transaction fee.

          Even in Europe, free bank-to-bank transfers take a couple days to execute (there is a paid option for instant transfers), and have a minimum of 0.01€ which might or might not be what you want to tip/pay someone for their content.

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            1 year ago

            I know about that stuff, but I just don’t see how you fix the fundamental problems of crypto without turning it into basically another ACH anyway. I.e. to regulate out the scammers, enable people to reverse transfers, tamp down on the straight out pump and dump schemes, wallet hacking / securing, the central exchanges going bust or being a scam themselves…

            I just think that by the time you make it equivalent to Visa or PayPal for end users, you’ve now made it basically one of those.

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            Not sure where in Europe you’re referring to but I’d be surprised if there’s anywhere in the EU where you can’t access free open banking transfers.