I’ve been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

    • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      A bunch of journalists actually went to China to see the abuse for themselves and didn’t walk away with anything to support that narrative. Best they could say to defend their case was “China is hiding the truth, that’s why we didn’t see anything” Over time, all the claims the right made about the “genocide” were slowly being deconfirmed to the point that it was becoming clear it was all made up. Is there a chance that some of the stuff actually was right? Maybe, but when you know it came from a place of bad faith you don’t exactly need to waste energy debunking each and every claim from the likes of faith healers and flat earthers when they have a rich history of flat out lying to drive a narrative.

      When people actively invested in finding out fucked up shit can’t find any fucked up shit, it’s a pretty good sign it’s not happening.

      EDIT: Doesn’t help that a lot of the people making the biggest fuss about the Uighurs are all siding with Israel in their genocide. One of the big key things that genocide deniers do is make a big stink about fake genocides that they made up on the spot (Fx: the great replacement)

      • rothaine@beehaw.orgEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Do you have a source for this? Last I looked into the Uighur genocide, it was being reported by well-respected outlets (not faith healers and flat earthers) and had photos of people being marched into camps.

        So for it to suddenly be “all made up” sounds rather far-fetched to me.

        • fosforus
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          1 year ago

          So for it to suddenly be “all made up” sounds rather far-fetched to me.

          Extremely polite way to say “complete bullshit”. Perhaps it’s necessary for the left now to say that China hasn’t committed genocide when the same people are accusing Israel of commiting genocide because they are allegedly doing a tiny fraction of what China has provably done. In some sense to a similar group of people.

                • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  🙄 Don’t act like you were actually going to look at it, nobody who asks for sources on the internet actually gives a shit about the source, they’re just doing it to waste the other person’s time and/or respond with some variety of “that’s a bad source” or “I’m still not convinced”

                  It’s like a tic, liberals will go “Source??” whenever they see something they don’t agree with, but then will guzzle down nazi propaganda like it’s a fact because it aligns with what they already believe. I have literally never seen them actually respect the time put into finding the source.

                  • ag_roberston_author@beehaw.orgEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    I asked for it because I knew it was bullshit you couldn’t back up with a source that didn’t exist. Before I commented, I searched for AP articles about it and found nothing, because it doesn’t exist.