A group of nearly two dozen people waving swastika flags and chanting antisemitic rhetoric marched on the Wisconsin state Capitol grounds Saturday afternoon, performing a salute originally used by Nazis at political rallies, often called the “Hitler salute.”
How did all those cops get off of work?
performing a salute originally used by Nazis at political rallies, often called the “Hitler salute.”
Lol! They say this as if we aren’t familiar with it and didn’t see thousands of Trump fans doing that just a few years ago…
I think they are starting to write this way, because there’s huge numbers of Americans who do not even know what the Holocaust is and that it happened let alone the basic facts about it. It’s shocking when you read the recent polls which demonstrate the levels of ignorance we are dealing with around this.
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I’m surprised that people don’t know about the ignorance of the Holocaust. Here is some reading for our collective edification.
- Kovac, Adam. “Almost half of Americans don’t know how many Jews died in the Holocaust, AJC survey says.” Forward, 2023. https://forward.com/fast-forward/533204/ajc-poll-holocaust-knowledge-americans/
- O’Kane, Caitlin. “Survey finds ‘shocking and saddening’ lack of Holocaust knowledge among millennials and Gen Z.” CBS News, 2020. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/holocaust-lack-of-awareness-millennials-gen-z/
- “Most Americans lack some basic knowledge about Holocaust — poll.” The Times of Israel, 2023. https://www.timesofisrael.com/most-americans-lack-some-basic-knowledge-about-holocaust-poll/
- “What Americans Know About the Holocaust.” Pew Research Center, 2020. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2020/01/22/what-americans-know-about-the-holocaust/
It might seem unbelievable to see how ignorant people are of the Holocaust, but what you and I find common sense and basic facts of history which we all know are unfortunately not generally known to be basic facts of history and we do not all know these facts. Less and less of us know these facts.
It’s alarming and it’s good that publishers are writing to state basic facts for an ignorant readership. Because of this we shouldn’t see this style of informative writing as a fault but rather as a boon to ignorant readership.
It’s not the Hitler salute anyway, it’s a ceaserian salute or Bellamy salute. Amusingly it was a common way to take the pledge of allegiance in the United States and many other countries. It only lost is popularity after Germany and later Italy used it in fascist/authoritarian/nationalistic movements.
…and the swastika is just a Hindu good luck symbol.
I’m sorry, but sometimes someone horrible takes a neutral or good thing and does something so profoundly evil with it that it forever changes that thing, tainting it by what has been done. Doesn’t matter what the salute was originally. Now it means only one thing.
Swastika is very very slowly being reclaimed in some media. Every time I see it though, I have to consider which meaning it was intended.
I thought Bleach, an anime, was using it in the Hindu manner, but many of the newer character designs made me wonder.
Nice, thanks.
It is that yes, and in certain context is the symbol of Nazi Germany. It can add is both, and more honestly it’s a native American symbol, Chinese symbol etc.
Not at all or every imperial nation would have to strike their flag and salute as well.
It only lost is popularity
So just like overt white supremacism and antisemitism?
I was surprised and ready to compliment a Republican governor for coming out against white supremacy and racism. That would have been a brave move.
I’m still happy he did it, but I shouldn’t have assumed Wisconsin had a Republican governor, and should have known better than to think one would.
Fun fact about Wisconsin: the Republicans were furious that a Democrat was going to be elected after Scott Walker’s fascist stint, so they rushed through several legislative changes to limit the powers of the incoming governor as a final middle finger to democracy.
Yes, because taking exclusive executive power away from the head of a government and giving it to the legislature to vote on instead is famously anti-democracy.
When it is abused for years by your guy, then explicitly changed ONLY because the opposing party takes over, yes it’s absolutely undemocratic
They did that in North Carolina too, but they sure as hell didn’t stop there. A couple more years of calvinball politics like this and Wisconsin will join NC in being a non-democracy.
The legislature took that power for themselves because they had gerrymandered the everliving fuck out of Wisconsin’s electoral districts and held solid majorities with 47% of the vote.
They made this move specifically to counter the will of the people, so no I don’t think it’s very democratically-minded of them.
It must be hard going through life without understanding context.
Not as hard as the basic definitions of words are for lemmy users, it seems.
You are obviously ignorant as fuck
Hey wo/man, I understand being autistic makes it difficult to accept/understand certain things. I recommend seeking help, there are resources out there that you can utilize.
Given Wisconsins famously un-representative legislature vs the representative statewide election it is. The most gerimandered legislature in the country completely ignores the will of 60% of the population in literally every thing they do.
Yes it absolutely is when it’s not your guy. Lmao. Stfu.
Yes, when it erodes supposed checks and balances.
I hate Wisconsin Nazis.
I hate Illinois Nazis.
I hate Nazis.
Everyone who’s not a Nazi hates Nazis.
What about babies?
Looking forward for when Nazis get the pirate treatment.
Like Nazis of the Caribbean where its a costume and Johnny Depp makes it cool AF?
I think there’s a fundamental difference there. The pirates did a lot of bad shit, but they’re cool because rebels and criminals are cool. Tyrannical governments aren’t. Al Capone is cool, but Jefferson Davis isn’t.
The Empire and The Imperium of Man are both extremely cool, and both are fascist dictatorships - the latter is also a theocracy lol.
It’s all in the presentation.
He shoulda said something before the demonstration.
Capitol buildings have demonstrations near daily that mostly get zero coverage. He waited to see if it would be a small, no-show situation. Otherwise there is a risk of unintentional spotlighting and advertising the event.
As someone who grew up in Madison and saw the various protests with tens and hundreds of thousands of people at the capital, I find it hilarious how they couldn’t even muster 24 people to show up. That’s almost as bad as the daily peace protest, which as a daily demonstration that’s been going on for years really doesn’t attract too many people
“There are dozens of us, I tell you! Dozens of us!”
