Palestine only became an idea after the Muslim conquest of the levant in the late 600s CE, when the Arabs went on their own genocide across the entire Middle East conquering everything and raping and killing everyone in sight.
If you want to talk about indigenous, then you’d have to go back to the Israelites around 3200 years ago, or the Philistines before them.
“Like in other ‘Arabized’ Arab nations, the Arab identity of Palestinians, largely based on linguistic and cultural affiliation, is independent of the existence of any actual Arabian origins.”
I mean it’s the fertile crescent. It’s been likely that it’s been being recolonized for hundreds of thousands of years. Not really any other landroutes out of Africa.
Umm, hate to break it to you but the actual word Palestinian is derived from the Hebrew word for Philistines. You couldn’t be more wrong in everything that you wrote.
Both Jews and Arabs from that area share a common ancestry (as proven by DNA testing).
And the Jews were there first. Before the Arab Muslims genocided them. Of course they share common DNA, the Muslims raped every woman from birth to the grave there.
The Jews and the Palestinians are both Semites and share a common ancestry. The Palestinians have also been there for centuries now. They are the defacto indigenous population there at this moment.
Indigenous does not just mean “there for a long time”. White people have been in North America for centuries now but nobody is gonna say they’re indigenous.
And yes, Muslims and Jews both trace their ancestry to the biblical Abraham. The split was when Abraham banished Hagar and Ishmael and they went to the desert in Arabia.
If people who are genetically predisposed to living in the area aren’t indigenous then the European Jews in Israel with some of the highest rates of skin cancer aren’t either.
No one is indigenous to anywhere by your logic since we evolved from a species before us.
Either that or one place in Africa where the first homo sapiens came from are the only indigenous people in the world.
Alright, everyone needs to learn to identify trolls/hateful idiots and just not engage when it’s on this level. To be crystal clear, I’m referring to the user Earthwormjim91.
If this individual truly believes the delusional bullshit they’re peddling, do you really think you are going to change their addled mind? No. Just bury hate and misinformation like this with downvotes and move on.
There’s no fruitful discussion to be had with people like this. They just spew bullshit like diarrhea in regard to any evidence or counterpoint. They argue in bad faith and are not bound by facts, logic, or the truth.
Engaging with toxic users like this just provides more comments for them to respond to and spread more hateful lies and misinformation.
Uh Palestinians are not fucking indigenous.
Palestine only became an idea after the Muslim conquest of the levant in the late 600s CE, when the Arabs went on their own genocide across the entire Middle East conquering everything and raping and killing everyone in sight.
If you want to talk about indigenous, then you’d have to go back to the Israelites around 3200 years ago, or the Philistines before them.
“Like in other ‘Arabized’ Arab nations, the Arab identity of Palestinians, largely based on linguistic and cultural affiliation, is independent of the existence of any actual Arabian origins.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians
Please realize there are lots of Palestinian Christians. They identify as Palestinians.
TL;DR Palestinian lineage doesn’t come from Saudi Arabia.
I mean it’s the fertile crescent. It’s been likely that it’s been being recolonized for hundreds of thousands of years. Not really any other landroutes out of Africa.
Which means that nobody there is indigenous. The actual indigenous peoples have been genocided over millennia.
Or that many groups have indigenous claims to the area.
For example, pacific islanders didnt’ get to many islands till the 900-1100 time period. We’d still call them indigenous peoples of those places.
More than one thing can be true at the same time.
We call them indigenous because they were the first ones there…
Palestinians were not. They killed the people who were there and took it.
I think they still qualify as having an indigenous claim.
Indigenous people having rights is a rather modern concept in terms of human history.
Umm, hate to break it to you but the actual word Palestinian is derived from the Hebrew word for Philistines. You couldn’t be more wrong in everything that you wrote.
Both Jews and Arabs from that area share a common ancestry (as proven by DNA testing).
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And the Jews were there first. Before the Arab Muslims genocided them. Of course they share common DNA, the Muslims raped every woman from birth to the grave there.
The Jews and the Palestinians are both Semites and share a common ancestry. The Palestinians have also been there for centuries now. They are the defacto indigenous population there at this moment.
Indigenous does not just mean “there for a long time”. White people have been in North America for centuries now but nobody is gonna say they’re indigenous.
And yes, Muslims and Jews both trace their ancestry to the biblical Abraham. The split was when Abraham banished Hagar and Ishmael and they went to the desert in Arabia.
Also Semitic just means a language group.
If people who are genetically predisposed to living in the area aren’t indigenous then the European Jews in Israel with some of the highest rates of skin cancer aren’t either.
No one is indigenous to anywhere by your logic since we evolved from a species before us.
Either that or one place in Africa where the first homo sapiens came from are the only indigenous people in the world.
Alright, everyone needs to learn to identify trolls/hateful idiots and just not engage when it’s on this level. To be crystal clear, I’m referring to the user Earthwormjim91.
If this individual truly believes the delusional bullshit they’re peddling, do you really think you are going to change their addled mind? No. Just bury hate and misinformation like this with downvotes and move on.
There’s no fruitful discussion to be had with people like this. They just spew bullshit like diarrhea in regard to any evidence or counterpoint. They argue in bad faith and are not bound by facts, logic, or the truth.
Engaging with toxic users like this just provides more comments for them to respond to and spread more hateful lies and misinformation.
Don’t feed trolls people.