• pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Not an expert on this at all but I feel like it’s less of “the human race is going to die out” vs the owner class needs cheap labor and bodies for war to continue infinite growth.

    My running theory is in the United States, Republican’s obsession with abortion is tied to the fact they need poor and broken families to pump out kids for future cheap labor and the prison industrial complex to make a nation function moving forward. That and the gray sunami of a upside down pyramid with not enough young to take care of the older generations (I think Japan and China are experiencing this currently).

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      1 year ago

      Well in Russia it’s about replacing all the kids and men dying in Ukraine. The Russian losses are staggering and Russia is basically throwing their people into a meat grinder.

      If only a fraction of a percent are coming home “after the war” Russia is in big big trouble regardless of population growth or shrinkage due to other causes.

      In the USA I’d agree it’s about cheap labor. They don’t want to let the Mexicans in too so gotta keep those white babies flowing.

      • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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        Russia has like 500 million people, they could send 499 million to their deaths and they would be fiiiiiine.

        Most of their economy is oil and gas extraction which doesn’t require a very large labor force. They can just outsource exploration to Europeans corporations anyway.

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          No, their population peaked in 94 at about 150M. They definitely have a serious population/demographic crisis. Arguably it’s one of the reasons Putin decided now was the moment to escalate in Ukraine, before it’s too late. Also why they’re taking Ukrainian children.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        Politicians have straight up said it’s a reason they are against abortion…

        But we agree it’s only safe abortions they’re blocking, right?

    • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      In germany the sheinking population or rather the aging population is causint serious issues for the pension system. The current working population is paying the pensions for the current pensioners. So what happens is fewer and fewer people pay for more and more people, leading to my generation not being able to get state pension, instead needing to get private plans

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        1 year ago

        Yeah that’s the real issue. Instead of fixing that they just try to make more people lol so lazy. There are no real leaders anymore

    • TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id
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      1 year ago

      The US has an easy way out of the demographic trap through immigration. Countries like China and Japan don’t have that because no one wants to immigrate to China and Japan basically doesn’t allow it at all.